need unix

[HPC GUY]

this may sound odd, but where can i download unix?

[Calum]

it does sound a bit odd, as faras i know you cannot download unix. as far as i know it is no longer supported and is a proprietary system. the closest you might get is downloading one of the BSDs.

[HPC GUY]

DOH!

[voidmain]

Calum is pretty much on the mark there but which flavor of UNIX are you interested in? BSD is probably the *only* UNIX that you can download for free. You used to be able to download Solaris x86 from Sun for free. I think you can still download it but not for free, you might have to give them a credit card number and be charged $20-$40, not sure about the current license.  

Most other UNIXes only run on specific hardware and you would purchase it with that hardware. Also SCO runs on x86 but that is not free either. I'm not sure what the current going rate is on that, they may also have ISO downloads.

But seriously, the differences between a "certified" version of UNIX and Linux are few.  In fact there are probably more differences between two different "certified" versions of UNIX than there are between any one certified version of UNIX and Linux. So I suggest you either get BSD or Linux, or both.

[ September 06, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]

[HPC GUY]

well.. i really wanted to take a look at the unix in its purest form, i have redhat here at work and im looking at lycoris on a my experimental machine at home which had redhat, but i going back to it. but i thought unix would be cool to try, just for kicks, im trying to learn all that i can about Oses.

[voidmain]

But UNIX really isn't a single operating system any more, it's a "standard" or "certification", the "Open Group" is the holder of the name and certifies operating systems to be called "UNIX".  Go to the Open Group's web site for more info on this.  If you want UNIX in it's purest form you are going to have to go back to the old labs at Bell.

History of UNIX at Bell Labs:
http://www.bell-labs.com/history/unix/

The Open Group:
http://www.opengroup.org/

Now there are only a small few operating systems that carry the "UNIX" certification. Solaris (Sun), AIX (IBM), HP-UX (HP), BSD (Berkeley), Tru64 (Compaq), SCO (now owned by Caldera), and a couple more are either UNIX 95 or UNIX 98 certified:

http://www.opengroup.org/regproducts/catalog.htm

Only a few of those are capable of running on x86 PC hardware, the rest run on other platforms.

The closest I have ever come to working on what I would consider to be UNIX in it's purest form would have been an old version of AT&T SysV UNIX running on a 3B2 machine probably built in the mid to late 80's. But it certainly wasn't a pretty sight by today's UNIX certified OSs.

[ September 06, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]

[choasforages]

yeah, im thinking about getting an alpha based system

[rtgwbmsr]

Anyone seen any Apple Network Servers floating around? I'd love one to experiment with UNIX on Apple hardware!

[Master of Reality]

i heard about some Unix V7 (or Version 7) somewhere, is this a version of Unix?

[voidmain]

quote:Originally posted by The_Muffin_Man/B0b:
Anyone seen any Apple Network Servers floating around? I'd love one to experiment with UNIX on Apple hardware!

You already have it if you are running OSX.

[voidmain]

quote:Originally posted by Master of Reality / Bob:
i heard about some Unix V7 (or Version 7) somewhere, is this a version of Unix?

Many flavors of UNIX have a version 7 of their particular OS. If you mean Version 7 of the original, yes it came out in 1978:

http://www.bell-labs.com/history/unix/versions.html

[rtgwbmsr]

Choas check these out:
http://www.systemresale.com/info_VAX-MicroVAX-Alpha.html

[Master of Reality]

I guess that was what i was talking about: http://foldoc.linuxguruz.org/foldoc.php?Version+7

Is there anywhere you can download the earlier verions of Unix?

Did they release the source code of version =<6 ?

[voidmain]

Yep same one.  It was released in 1979 and it also says that many consider it to be the last "true" UNIX.  As far as downloading this or earlier versions.  I don't know, do you have a large garage containing a PDP-7 or PDP-11? You might be able to get the OS trucked to you on paper tape.  

[ September 06, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]

[HPC GUY]

oh well so much for that idea, thanks for the info though peoplez...