girl needs advice

[Rosie]

heh - i hope that subject caught peoples attention  

anyway,  currently i am on a computer that runs win2000.  i'm a budding designer, so, i run Adobe and Macromedia products.  They are the windows versions.

i want to run linux, i would really like to do this.  yes, i say fuck to microsoft and i proudly used my email address here when i was in my course [multimedia].

eventually i would like to get a mac, but that requires money [which i don't have], and i ain't just getting any old mac.  i want one with the movey type screen    then i'd have to get cross-grades and all this requires more money than i don't have or am likely to have for a good long time.

so, before that, I'd like to know, can i get a version of linux that will allow me to run windows programs?  i've heard of windows type linux OS's. but it seems people around here aren't too crash hot on them. i agree. but i don't want 2 operating systems on the same computer.  

i want to be a linux user damnit.

any thoughts / input?

thanks, Rosie

[jrigby]

well there is lindows and I think Xandros has some compatability but dont take my word for it im a Newbie to linux.

[pkd_lives]

Sorry Linux and windows are different, in that they do not work the same way - this is why *nix are better, because they work better.

Lindows perports to act like windows, but I have never used it and I hear it basically makes you root all the time, bipassing one of the essential good things in *nix.

You can get emulators of Windows, such as wine, which are free or very cheap, or you can get youself some Virtual machine software - expensive I believe. Not necessarily a good option, but it might do what you need, the cheap ones tend to be hard work to configure (I have not suceeded yet).

You should contact Adobe and ask when their Linux version is coming out, what with recent actions by M$ they might now be very pliable to the *nix community, or you could just save save save and get the Mac you always wanted. Anyway Macs are better for graphics. And as Macromedia is effectively a M$ company, don't expect much from them.

This is not quite what you want to hear, but systems that work differently do not work the same way (stating the obvious here I know), a thing Sun tried to fix with Java - which seems to have been hijacked into a high grade memory consumer and advertising feature.

Dual boot is easy and recommended if you require the short term power use of your PC. It keeps your ass covered.

[ November 02, 2002: Message edited by: pkd ]

[KernelPanic]

www.frankscorner.org

shhh! - dont tell anybody im aiding the use of winders apps.

[KernelPanic]

ps. there is the gimp, but i dunno what you would use for flash movies

[pkd_lives]

quote:Originally posted by Tux:
www.frankscorner.org

shhh! - dont tell anybody im aiding the use of winders apps.

Dammit Tux didn't you mother spank you as a child or something    

Bloody rebels - not towing the line and thinking how  we tell you to think  

[Pantso]

Well Rosie, I would suggest vmware if you can afford a copy. You can also get wine, which is a free windows emulator (free as in free beer, let;s not forget that) but still in a developmental stage. Don't try Lindows! It is a disgrace to the whole Open Source community!

Anyway, welcome to the boards.  

[Master of Reality]

My suggestion to you rosie is to join the Cult of Bob. and run a dual boot between Linux and windows, then just go into windows to play with those things and go into linux to do everything else. I got winders on my computer to run Counterstrike.

[rtgwbmsr]

My recommendations:

Linux OS:
The only one that costs money is Xandros, everything else is free if you have a fast connection and a CD burner.

Windows like, Compatible (can run most Win apps)
Xandros ($99) - www.xandros.com

Very Windows Like, easy to use
Lycoris Desktop LX - www.lycoris.com

Not so Windows Like, but easy to use
Mandrake 9 - www.mandrake.com

Not so Windows Like, relatively easy to use
Red Hat 8 - www.redhat.com

Not Windows Like, easy to use, NOT easy to set up
Gentoo - www.gentoo.com

As for emulating Windows, you have a few options:
Free:
1) WINE (apps) & WineX (games) http://www.winehq.com/

2) Patience (until you get your mac)

3) Dual Booting (having both Linux and Winders on the same PC)

Not free:
1) VM Ware *Recommended* - www.vmware.com
Probably the best way to go, I've been able to run every application I could want in it without any problems. My advice is to get the trial version until you can fork the cash $300-$330
Trial link:
http://www.vmware.com/download/workstation.html

2) Get a Mac     - www.apple.com

I've gotten Dreamweaver 4 and Fireworks 4 (with much work) to be usable in WINE. The MX versions are just helpless until a later version of WINE.

It sucks to be dependent on those apps...it takes the freedom away from Linux.

[ November 02, 2002: Message edited by: The_Muffin_Man/B0b ]

[Crunchy(Cracked)Butter]

Xandros looks pretty good at the moment and has just done a deal with Codeweavers that means you can run windows apps in linux.  The OS costs $99 as well i think, i would buy it but i just bought suse.

[Calum]

well my advice is, take the advice of both Muffin Man and of PKD. And don't use Lindows. it will be a waste of time. i think i might need to get lindows just so i can say i have personally used it, and it's a waste of time, instead of qjust saying it costs money, is closed source, and all the reviews say it is a beta heap of shit.

also, do dual boot, or one better, get vmware and install windows under that. Do dual boot, if you need those windows apps while you explore your new system. it will take time, and you'll be frustrated by some things at first, so you will want something you are familiar with in the meantime.

[Calum]

i didn't say apple didn't suck, however there are hundreds of other reasons that lindows sucks apart from it being closed source, and not all of those apply to MacOS or apple.

[Rosie]

wow.. i hadn't expected so many replies! thanks you

i'm having a look at that Franks Corner page, thanks for the link.  I've got a magazine / booklet thing thats about Linux, and it came with Redhat and some other version.  I'm reading through it and am sort of getting through it.  heh - i know what a kernal is now!
 me feels  :cool:  

oh, and i joined the cult of bob.  i had a read of what bob's do.  eek..

"It's well known that people who think too much can turn into goths, schizophrenics or manic depressives"

i am a manic depressive     or to be more PC i have bipolar mood disorder.  i trust being part of this will FIX ME GOOD!!
lol

[Rosie]

quote:Originally posted by pkd:
Sorry Linux and windows are different, in that they do not work the same way - this is why *nix are better, because they work better.

i just thought i'd point out that I KNOW THAT


  :rolleyes:

[pkd_lives]

quote:Originally posted by Rosie:


i just thought i'd point out that I KNOW THAT


   :rolleyes:  

Well yeah I guessed you might, but I don't KNOW that, after all to the best of my knowledge we have never met.

Unless you were that cute brunette on the T the other day - whoops said too much.