Solaris

[dbl221]

Hey gang, anyone know where a student might download a solaris (intel) 8 or 9 iso from...at a student price...as in free.

[Heru]

no damn clue.
Sun took the Solaris 8 intel downloads donw a few months ago, and they probably won't release 9 for intel either.

I've been wondering where to get it as well.  
All I can reccomend is to do a web search on Google and hope to have better luck than I did.

[voidmain]

Well, they *used* to let you download the Intel version for free. You can still download Solaris 8 x86 but at a charge of $20. They didn't put out an x86 version of Solaris 9 but if you happen to have a Sparc machine lying around you can download Solaris 9 for Sparc (single processor version) for free.  Other than that, I have a copy of Solaris 7 x86 which I did download from Sun for free. I can not give you a copy according to the free binary license agreement.  Still, $20 isn't all that much for Sun to ask in my opinion.

http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris/binaries/get.html

[ June 04, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]

[voidmain]

It's "like" UNIX.

[dbl221]

Thanks guys, I will try to ... "find an iso".  I agree with VoidMain $20 is a fair price...but I was hoping for a student price.  Which brings me to my rant, why isn't there legal student discounts for most OS's and SDK's and what-not for the computer students.  Borland does have a Kylix version for students at reduced prices.

Whats holding the rest back.  I guess they want the next generation of geeks to only be familiar with Linux/BSD. Wasn't the liberal licensing of Unix at universities the reason it became so popular?

I will "post" my Solaris iso results when I have some.

[voidmain]

I can give you my review since for the last 5 years I've been administering/managing around 75 Sun servers.  I personally like Linux a lot more than Solaris, however Solaris performs much better on Sun hardware (especially on machines with more than 4 processors. I have one machine with 18 processors and several with 10 processors).  I do have a couple of old dual processor Sparc20 boxes that I installed Debian Linux on and use for web servers... I wouldn't waste my time with the x86 version of Solaris unless a vendor app requires it or you are using it as a learning tool for larger Sparc boxes.

[dbl221]

Thanks VoidMain...I am using it for learning, but I like the review anyway...more than 4 cpu's does seem to be the big dividing line for an OS.  More than that and my brain implodes.

AS/400 has typically 200 or more processors...cool eh!

Oh man did I just say eh...I am such a hoser.

[slave]

Hmmm.. Solaris... similar to Linux but it's even less used, costs money, and there aren't as many programs for it.

But seriously, just get Windows XP direct from Microsoft; it's 80 bucks but you get what you pay for.

[Calum]

quote:Originally posted by Windows XP User #5225982375:
Hmmm.. Solaris... similar to Linux but it's even less used, costs money, and there aren't as many programs for it.

similar to unix, not linux. Actually, similar to SunOS, for some reason, am i right? Of course it costs money, oh dear, so does windows as you say yrself, and solaris costs less, free if you own a SPARC, which presumably would run Solaris better anyway, and as to the programs, what are you on about? in this day and age, if there's a C compiler for the OS, you can spend literally years just working your way through the GNU open source stuff! this applies to any OS with decent compilers, including windows, dare i say.

[voidmain]

quote:Originally posted by Windows XP User #5225982375:
Hmmm.. Solaris... similar to Linux but it's even less used, costs money, and there aren't as many programs for it.

But seriously, just get Windows XP direct from Microsoft; it's 80 bucks but you get what you pay for.

Look dumb fuck. Windows doesn't run on a Sun. Windows only runs (and I use that the term "run" loosely) on puny little shit-tel boxes.  Now scram and find some teletubbies to play with. Where the hell are the mods?  This is a *UNIX* forum.  

And Calum, Sun more or less just switched names several years back from SunOS to Solaris (a little more than that but...).  And unlike Microsoft, Sun has the ability to create very good hardware of their OWN innovation and write an operating system to run on that hardware...

[Heru]

listen XP loser!
Solaris is a good OS.  It is generally used on mainframe servers or other high-risk mission critical servers.  XP is not useful for mainframe use.  Hell XP is hardly useful at all.

In our modern age, the same program will often run and compile on Solaris, Linux, Free/Open/NetBSD MacOSX, and others without modification.  There are almost as many programs for Solaris as for Linux becuase of this.  The true beauty of unix is being able to do this.

Personally through my experience with MS products, you'd have to be insane to use them on a server of any kind(and apparently some people are).  The unixes are better for that job, even Minix!  Hell even IBM PC-DOS is better on servers, than MS products.  I've had XP blue screen on me when it was trying to process SETI data; now windows only does that while it is idle, so that was the only thing it was doing, and it crashed.

[slave]

[edit - since this moron's posts have started to really get on the tits of the real posters, i will be taking a conservative attitude towards censorship when it comes to XP Luser's posts from now on. This post was utter gash, and you are better off not seeing it, now it's been deleted.

To XP Luser #174813647823, I will continue to delete your useless and obstructive posts until you either start to contribute actual opinions or facts. Basically anything of any substance. It's not hard, i stopped hassling gooseberry clock when he started trying to make sense, so either explain why you are doing this, start posting intelligently, stop posting entirely, or else i will keep deleting your moronic and time wasting posts. The choice is yours, the ball is in your court. Okay, back to the discussion about Solaris...

[ June 06, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]

[ June 06, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]

[ravuya]

Based on what I've heard from a few Sun users, Solaris for Intel is ass compared to the Solaris for native Sun boxes. Might be something to keep in mind.. but hey, free is free.

[slave]

How dare you delete my post!  I forgot what I even wrote there anyway.  I make more sense than most of you goonies here, so buzz off.  I know you like deleting my posts because you're afraid of what they contain, but your censorship may backfire, so be careful.  People may begin to see you for the post-censoring Mac elitist that you are.

[edit - (Calum Says) i don't have a mac and i have no regret over deleting your posts. You post in every topic you can find, and you usually elicit an average of three to four angry responses which seriously disrupts the flow of discussion.Either explain yourself or stop posting.

I will not be editing your posts in future however in the interests of free speech. From now on the onus will be on people not to reply to you, which will minimise the damage.

Anyway, you didn't forget what you posted, because it's a different Microsoft employee posting using this username every day, so you personally never wrote this drivel in the first place.
Leave now.]

[ June 07, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]

[voidmain]

Leave dumb ass.  You are more annoying than Greaseberry Crotch EVER was. Solaris has *nothing* to do with a Mac.  Now scram. Well webmaster, I think it's finally come to a point where a user needs to be locked out. He certainly can't seem to follow the topics...

[ June 06, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]