So I installed Linuxoze

[DukePuke]

I am total lnx noob,  got installed Slackware yesterday (i got rid windoze partition during mistake, but who cares, there was no important data)

So what the fuck strange system is linuxoze. I got need install additional software from internet. I got some kind of tar.gz pack, (wxWindows/GTK lib if you care) , I do

./configure (ok 1 minute and its over)
make  

lol, it taking 20 minutes of compiling this shit and it still compiling.

This is fuckin funny. I want to add software to linux, and 8 MB package takes half (or even more) hours to compile and install?

[DukePuke]

And BTW, how to shutdown computer from linux? I think holding 5 seconds "Power" button is not good.

[mobrien_12]

Building from source takes time because it takes a significant amount of processor power to turn source code into binary executables.  It doesn't matter what platform you use (Linux, Windows, MacIntosh, etc.).  

An 8MB source package can take a very long time to build.

Binary packages, in contrast, really only need to be copied to the hard drive.

The distinct advantages of compiling from source
are:  the ability to customize the compile to your hardware, the binary will be linked directly against libraries on your hard drive (insuring maximum stability and compatibility), and you can specify compile time options.

To shutdown your linux box do one of the following

1)  as root type /sbin/halt
2)  as root type /sbin/shutdown -h now
3)  hit CTRL-ALT-F1 to go to a text console, and then hit CTRL-ALT-Delete.

[DukePuke]

Thanks for info    I hope your shutdown methods will work for me

[WMD]

quote:Originally posted by DukePuke:
I am total lnx noob,  got installed Slackware yesterday

Bingo.  Slackware = not for newbies.  I learned that the hard way (though I picked up lots of great knowledge).

[DukePuke]

hehe Actualy I hadn't knew that its for advanced users. Just got some Slackware review in some kind of Linux portal, and I read its very recommended for beginers. So i dloaded lnx, burn in CD, boot, lol no GUI, just stupid text based environment, and poor documentation. Duno, I planned to have 2 OS'es (with win2k) but I just dont knew how to use fdisk, and i messed all hdd with him, until I seen there is nothing more to do then to install that linux. Actualy its good distro, but i dont like that its dont support rpm packages

[ March 29, 2004: Message edited by: DukePuke ]

[ March 29, 2004: Message edited by: DukePuke ]

[hm_murdock]

even easier

shutdown -h now

or

shut it down from inside the GUI... oh wait, most *NIX desktops don't let you do that ::rolls eyes::

Get GenSTEP when it comes out.

[WMD]

quote:Originally posted by JimmyJames: GenSTEP Founder:
shut it down from inside the GUI... oh wait, most *NIX desktops don't let you do that ::rolls eyes::

KDE can (when KDM is being used), and Gnome can do it as well.  

BTW DukePuke: type "startx" and watch the magic.  

[insomnia]

First things you'll need to do:

*Add a personal user:
 Type: adduser (as root)
 =>Slack will ask you some easy questions and make
   a dir. called /home/user-name
Exit as root and log-in as your personal user.

*Pick a window manager.
 =>Type: xwmconfig (as your personal user)
 Start with someting easy like GNOME or KDE.
 An other GNOME option is Dropline (You need an    
 i686 for this)
 http://www.dropline.net/gnome/download.php  
 Type startx to launch them.

*Packages:
 http://www.linuxpackages.net/
 Installing them:
 installpkg package-name

*Auto update/installation tools:
 slapt-get=>  http://software.jaos.org/    
 swaret=>  http://www.swaret.org/
 ...

PS: Slackware does support RPM, but you'll have to
build the RPM database yourself(I don't find this needed).

[ March 29, 2004: Message edited by: insomnia ]

[mobrien_12]

Slackware was my very first distro... with it's spanking new 2.0 kernel  

It's not as newbie friendly as others (Mandrake, SuSe, etc.) mostly because it's the one in behavior that is closest to a traditional unix system, but you do learn a lot... sortof like learning to drive with a standard transmission instead of an automatic.  It's also pretty snappy.

[DukePuke]

Thanks you for help, expecialy that you dont RTFM'ed me. Actualy I discovered that "startx" and "adduser" earlier.  Actualy i use that slack now, dunno how i had done it, but I setup Internet connection for it. Actualy The biggest problem I am finding is libraries. I hate that almost every Linuxoze software requires various interplatformic-libs to additional be downloaded and installed. I find that problem expecialy with graphical/non-console progs. And then i compile those libraries, they spit errors as well (read my first post above). I hoped more inter-distro compatibility from linuxoze ;/

[insomnia]

quote:Originally posted by DukePuke:
Actualy The biggest problem I am finding is libraries. I hate that almost every Linuxoze software requires various interplatformic-libs to additional be downloaded and installed. I find that problem expecialy with graphical/non-console progs.

You don't have to do this manually.
Slapt-get and Swaret do these for you.


 

quote:Originally posted by DukePuke:
And then i compile those libraries, they spit errors as well (read my first post above).

you mean this?
http://www.wxwindows.org/


 

quote:Originally posted by DukePuke:
I hoped more inter-distro compatibility from linuxoze ;/

Only very bad software isn't.
If you can't find a compatible package,
you can convert them (or use sources).


PS:Give slapt-get or swaret a try.
 


 

[WMD]

When you have library problems, say you fell victim to "dependency hell."  That's the official lingo  

 

quote:Originally posted by M. O'Brien:
It's also pretty snappy.

Not when your computer has 32MB RAM and your favorite desktop is KDE.  

[mobrien_12]

quote:Originally posted by DukePuke:
Thanks you for help, expecialy that you dont RTFM'ed me. Actualy I discovered that "startx" and "adduser" earlier.  Actualy i use that slack now, dunno how i had done it, but I setup Internet connection for it. Actualy The biggest problem I am finding is libraries. I hate that almost every Linuxoze software requires various interplatformic-libs to additional be downloaded and installed. I find that problem expecialy with graphical/non-console progs. And then i compile those libraries, they spit errors as well (read my first post above). I hoped more inter-distro compatibility from linuxoze ;/

Good job on the internet setup.

Regarding library dependencies, on my RedHat install, I just told the installer to install everything for this reason.  

I stopped using slackware around 1999 but I'd be suprised if it didn't come with most of the libraries you need these days... maybe you just didn't install them?  

Guys, my memory is fading.  Doesn't slackware have a setup program that can be run after the system is online to add binary packages that were neglected?

The slapt-get thing would be cool too, but he might as well install everything from his CDROMs before downloading new stuff.

[mobrien_12]

quote:Originally posted by WMD:

Not when your computer has 32MB RAM and your favorite desktop is KDE.      

Yeah, well there is that  

[ March 31, 2004: Message edited by: M. O'Brien ]