We won! (sorta...)

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No, I'm saying that, for example, instead of people complaining to Adobe that they want a Linux port of Photoshop, it would be better for the community if they would instead use the money they would have spent on Linux Photoshop licences to funding development of free alternatives such as the Gimp. But if they have to use it until the Gimp is adequate for their needs better they run it under Wine (if photoshop ran under Wine) rather than bring the whole body of proprietary software over to our free OS.

[Doogee]

Wine is shit just like WineX and anything else that encourages develepors not to make NATIVE Linux Ports. If people want to play there games they should pester the developors or dual boot.

[Kintaro]

quote:Originally posted by Interscope:
Lets see...

Code leaks>>> People use it to pull WINE out of Alpha stage>>> More people switch to Linux>>> People start making ports for Linux>>>M$ is sqaushed away

It is a failed plan. Just compare it to OSX, Apple withholds some code but the core is open source and EVERYONE can edit it.

Those people cannot edit it and only look at it. Only M$ can edit it. We all know M$, M$ ignores bug reports for at least half a year or so.

The kernel of OS-X is open source, which is bullshit, i want aqua

they just did the kernel to suck you in and not make them look like dirty barsteds.

[choasforages]

i know, they should atleast release specs on it, or give it away like mit did with X11, then agian, mit just wanted x11 to be the most "successful" software

[xyle_one]

quote:Originally posted by SHES A FAT HAIRY BITCH:


The kernel of OS-X is open source, which is bullshit, i want aqua

they just did the kernel to suck you in and not make them look like dirty barsteds.

yeah right. that is their fucking baby. i dont ever see aqua going open. i wouldnt ever release it either. if i had developed the dopest graphical interface, and wanted  people to keep buying my systems, i would never show anyone the code for aqua.
im glad to see them keep their core, safari, rendezvous, etc.. openSource, but not their interface. its too clean. if xWindows can't do something as least as clean as aqua, then fuck xWindows. fuck m$ cheap ass UI too.
what i would love to see, is a graphical interface that puts the mac to shame. i just dont see it happening. (waiting for the flame, but its cool, i have got the fire extenguisher.)

[Calum]

this is the only sort of conflict that matters on this site in my opinion.

mac users just CANNOT resist getting out their 1980s PC hater hats and making fun of all the PC using (or anything other than a mac using) linux/BSD/anything other than macOSX types.

Xyle, do you know why open source software is on the whole a ghood idea? well i won't bother to elaborate then, but if you do know then why are you treating us to this 'you're all as bad as microsoft anyway' bollocks.

i'll tell you why, insecurity. you can't imagine that apple computer is just as bad as microsoft (and let's face it, the only difference between apple and microsoft is the number of users of their product and some airy fairy idea of 'style'.

apple computer would be ecstatic if only they too could be convicted monopolists.

all you people who take the easy road of supporting the 'underdog' (ie apple computer) and poopooing all the 'PC users' (those of us who champion the (sometimes slower or less methodical) *right* way to do things) really should throw your sour grapes in the compost and get out of the 1980s.

and put away your fire extinguisher, none of that was flaming, just home truths.

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quote:if i had developed the dopest graphical interface, and wanted people to keep buying my systems, i would never show anyone the code for aqua

Then lets hope you never develop any software.

 

quote:i'll tell you why, insecurity.

That's a good point. I personally would never primarily use that argument as it's an open source movement argument. There are far more important reasons why software should be Free and not just open, and these are reasons Apple cares for about as much as Microsoft does. Apple has jumped on the awful 'Open Source' bandwagon with their OS core by making it 'Open Source' but released under a restrictive licence that is not free.

This Apple-loving attitude of Mac users is something I find disturbing. Apple fanboys aren't much different from Microsoft fanboys, only the company they support hasn't behaved quite as badly as MS. As Calum says, Apple don't have a monopoly as Microsoft does, but it's not through want of trying.