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« on: 23 August 2002, 10:40 »
You want provide users with secure location to post their files. You want users to be able access files using ACLs through network. (Using Kerberos 5 for authentication and SMB for file sharing)
You want users to have the same desktop settings regardless from which computer they logon to network. (Roaming profiles)
You want also make "Run" command available only to administrators and remove this commmand from menu from the rest of the group. (Separate group policies for admins and users)
You want users to automatically install software from central location when specific extension of file is clicked and software is not available on local machine. (Intellimirrow implementation)
You want all network trafic to be authenticated and encryoted between client machine and file server. (IPsec using PKI)
You don't want to touch users machine to make it happen apart from adding them to AD. (All settings assigned through group policies)
You are also having limited drive space on your file server and you would like to use existing tape library as extension to your file system which can fill up pretty quickly. (Remote storage)
How easy is this to implement for 5000 user network using Linux? Again, no third party sofware (that's what voidMain required for Windows tests).
You want users to be able to read their emails, have calendaring, access to public folders and some other reach GUI features without sending password in clear text. (Outlook, domain authentication).
You want to be able to connect and see what is happening on remote machine if user has a problem (TS implementation in Windows XP)

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« Reply #1 on: 23 August 2002, 10:44 »
What are you doing back?  You haven't answered question number 2 yet...
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« Reply #2 on: 23 August 2002, 10:47 »
Can you explain me term of print queue?
This is something from UNIX world.
Explain me the task rather then possibke implementation.

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« Reply #3 on: 23 August 2002, 10:50 »
i could set up a system like that probably easy, just send me 5000 pentium 3's and ill build that kind of configureation for you. but i do have one condition, i have to build it in mexico
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« Reply #4 on: 23 August 2002, 10:52 »
Can you explain me technical details how you are going to implement in Linux?
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« Reply #5 on: 23 August 2002, 10:53 »
quote:
You want also make "Run" command available only to administrators and remove this commmand from menu from the rest of the group. (Separate group policies for admins and users)  


You are such a Winblows idiot its not funny.  This question demonstrates your complete lack of knowledge.

Have you ever even used a non-winblows computer?
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« Reply #6 on: 23 August 2002, 10:53 »
I have a book right here, Red Hat Linux 7.2 Bible unlimited edition from negus. It explains everything you asked for except the run on the start menu, which isn't necessary as you can just disallow programs to users. And linux is secure without that "feature". I can also do it in less than 15 minutes of configuring stuff. Windows, you have to click for hours. clickity click click click for each and every security thing you want disabled. How many times did you click your mouse in group policy editor? I'm sure anywhere between 20-500 times. And outlook didn't really take any configuring for me, I just added a user, set up samba as a pdc, and changed about 2 lines of code and poof. outlook 2000 worked great. of course, you could just take the "easy" route and click 500 times.

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« Reply #7 on: 23 August 2002, 10:54 »
and that would dis-allowe linux, the whole damn thing is made from "third-party" software.GNU/linux is not controlled by anyone, hell, i have my own GNU/linux that i use personally. so just about anything under linux you that is freespeech and freebeer could you use. and it wouldn't be hard at all. i just wouldn't want to put up with 5000 monkeys.
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« Reply #8 on: 23 August 2002, 10:54 »
You don't know what a print queue is? As in, something that shows up on your server, has a little printer ICON on it in explorer when you are browsing the resources of your server from a client and when you double click on it will select the appropriate printer driver and allow you to print to it?  Or you can click Start->Run and type the UNC name:

\\LAME2KSERVER\PRINTERNAME

and it will configure a printer to print to the print queue that is set up on your server for that name?
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« Reply #9 on: 23 August 2002, 10:57 »
I have been talking about all Linux implementation. VoidMain specifically made all hist tests with pure OS.
Also all answers about that I would do in 15 minutes and of the same nature is pretty weak.
Please give me specifics about each of the steps.
Remember users needs GUI. To remove Run from possibilities, I would another one - "you want users to run only program X and you want them from changing desktop or adding printers to the system"
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« Reply #10 on: 23 August 2002, 10:59 »
VoidMain you are talking about implementation rather the task. I understand where you are going becouse in UNIX you have separate physical file in spool which you don't have in Windows (at least not in expected format). Again, it has nothing to with a task. If you need users documents to be converted to some other format then you write a program, designate directory, ask people to put files there and you are done.
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« Reply #11 on: 23 August 2002, 11:00 »
And I'll give you the technical details of how I do it in Linux but basically the scenerio is to have what looks like a normal shared printer on your server, say using the color laserjet drivers.  However, when a user connects to this printer and sends a print job to it, instead of going down the hall to pick up their printed output the get an email from their Exchange server in Outlook containing an attachment which is a PDF file and happens to look exactly like would have printed out on paper.

You tell me how you're going to do that, then I will tell you how I would/do do it.
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« Reply #12 on: 23 August 2002, 11:03 »
I actually do it even without color printers etc. I would designate mailbox in Exchange, would run a script in Exchange on message arrival, would convert document and send it back.
It's not a theory, I already did it. I was receving Word documents from our supplier, I was stripping document, converting it to HTML and posting to web sites.
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« Reply #13 on: 23 August 2002, 11:04 »
The PDF thing I am talking about is for Windows clients, not UNIX/Linux clients.  In my example I will make my server appear on the network as an NT Server, and a member of the NT domain.  The clients won't know that it's not an NT server. They just print to the shared printer and get a message back in outlook with a PDF attachment.  If I want to do this in Windows how would I do it?
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« Reply #14 on: 23 August 2002, 11:04 »
Users get their GUI stuff, but you aren't talking about users you are talking about server perspectives. And an admin (at least a good one) does not need a gui system to work with. If that is why you are against linux then your a bigger idiot than i thought. And the print que thing, you honestly dont know what it is? There is no printer (well, not a lot) that can print 2000 things at once, they get printed in order from a que... Even a winblows person should know about this. I'm afraid you just lost all respect I ever had, and will no longer reply to your posts. Try http://windowsbbs.com and go worship there, this is a anti-windows place.