Ok so what do ya think...

[lazygamer]

Now I got another dumb problem. Remember how I disabled some non-essential services? I wanted to try enabling Kuzdu, Harddrake, and something else, so I could try getting this scanner I have working in Linux. Linux woulden't detect it, but I felt detecting hardware at boottime might make a difference. Problem is, I modify my settings, click ok, and it doesn't save it! WTF?! Why they hell won't it save my settings! What seemingly unrelated n00b screw up could I have possibly made to cause this frustrating and retarted problem?

[lazygamer]

Ok problem solved, just log in as root. Yet that still is a gay problem, I was able to save my changes before outside of root.  

Sadly, the scanner was not detected.  

[voidmain]

That would be a file permissions issue. Look at the ownership of the files you are trying to change along with the permissions on those files. I don't know exactly what you are referring to though or how you got to the point you are so I can't help you much beyond that unless you give me some more hints...

[lazygamer]

After some shock from the Linux learning curve, I had ZSNES up and running. It didn't seem to run my roms any faster then the wind0ze version. Why is that? There is four possible reasons:

A)Windows isn't as shittly coded as it seems.
B)Whoever ported ZSNES to Linux did a shabby job of it.
C)Linux isn't all it's cracked up to be.
D)It will only work the way it's susposed to when I become a Linux master.

I mean Linux is susposed to be vastly superior to windoze, so if it still is, then is it only superior stability wise? If Linux is so powerful, then I should be able to pop in a NATIVE LINUX emulator and see a speed difference compared to wind0ze. More like a BIG speed difference. Why am I not seeing this?

Once again, Linux has proven itself to be little more then a toy for me, while the serious stuff must be done with Wind0ze.(sorry tux)
No matter how much Linux angers me, or pisses me off, I shall not quit(so no matter how many proveribal 4 letter words I launch at Linux, im not just gonna throw in the towel, that I promise). But goddamn, it sure does an incredible job of disapointing me. :

[Bazoukas]

I feel your "pain: lazygamer. But stick with it. I was a strickly MS user simply because i didnt know any better.
 Now I find my self doing all of my work (I am a Computer Science major) with Linux.

 I would suggest to go with a more friendly Linux Version such as RedHat.  Mandrake is way to friendly if you want a challange.

 I found RedHat to be somewhere in between. Unless though you wanna gut it out with what you have already.

 But trust me, when you get used to it, you going to be hooked on it.
 I still Use Windows, but only during the weekends when I wanna play few games i have on multiplayer.

 Stick with it man. Its well worth it. Everything that you need is in there. It just takes some time to get used to it.

[voidmain]

Regarding speed. One single threaded program with the exact same code should run with nearly identical speed under most any OS using the same hardware. When an application is running with nothing much else going on it will get most of the CPU time and the OS has little to do with it at this point.

Now, some things that make Linux better: stable, secure, no viruses, no spyware, source included, many more apps available that would cost you thousands upon thousands of dollars from Microsoft, development tools included that would cost thousands of dollars from Microsoft, the operating system does not assume you are an idiot, the more you learn the more you realize that Linux is infinitely more powerful, etc.

Note that I did not say faster, however being more powerful allows you to do many daily tasks much more efficiently, saving time, which ultimately means faster but not in the way that you are thinking.  Now initially the reverse will be true, you will certainly not be efficient in the learning stages.

And it *is* harder to learn than Windows but that is because there is a lot *more* to learn.  But eventually you will reach that threshold where you break through and really start "getting it".  That's when it starts getting fun. And the fun continues exponentially from that point on. Hell, I'm still learning and grinning after 10 years.  

The threshold point for me was probably somewhere around the first month of using UNIX. But at that time it was my job and I worked at it 8-12 hours a day during that month.

And the RedHat suggestion might not be a bad idea. I can help you with most anything there. I never liked Mandrake which is just a forked version of RedHat anyway and because of that I don't use it, and can't help much with Mandrake specific issues.

[ September 06, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]

[lazygamer]

Interesting, so your saying Redhat is actually easier to use and learn then Mandrake?

Hmmm that's interesting, Wind0ze is a piece of shit, yet it can harness hardware performance as good as Linux in a program? But how do you explain the enhanced Linux speeds under GLquake(or Quake 2 or 3) that I've heard mentioned here? It would seemingly point to the fault of the programmer, rather then the OS.

[voidmain]

Am I saying RedHat is easier to use than Mandrake? If I were referring to me then yes I most certainly say that RedHat is easier to use than Mandrake. But from a n00bs point of view there shouldn't be much difference.

The Quake speeds really aren't that much different between Windows and Linux, yes I get better framerates under Linux but it certainly isn't noticeable unless you are looking at your frame rate counter. There *will* be differences in speed for many different reasons one way or the other, but they should be miniscule compared to the differences in speed you would get with a faster processor and/or video card.

[ September 06, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]

[lazygamer]

I always thought Mandrake had some things built into it that made it easier to use then the average distro...

[choasforages]

the power of linux and opensource, is the -O6 flag on gcc, or if that barfs the code up -O4 flay, ifit still doesn't work -O3 and if that doesn't run, fuck it -O2, and youll only start seeing the speed when you compile the source for things

[choasforages]

keep in mind that i can play quake3 at 24 or so fps at 1600x1200 on my 400mhz k6-3/*then agian, a 64 meg geforce2 and 256 megs of ram help but...*/ under linux. win9x doesn't even go that high of res last time i played with it. can windows do this, i don't reall know

[lazygamer]

quote:the power of linux and opensource, is the -O6 flag on gcc, or if that barfs the code up -O4 flay, ifit still doesn't work -O3 and if that doesn't run, fuck it -O2, and youll only start seeing the speed when you compile the source for things

So what the heck is -06, -04 etc. anyways? How does the compiling work exactly, do you have to modify alot of the sourcecode, or does the compiler somehow know what your system has and automatically optimizes it? If it does, then it would seem rather simple to compile your own sources, as long as you had some directions...