you are thinking in a gnome user's way. gtk's menus are a mess. kde on the other hand, has nice menus that remember were i have been so i don't have to go all over the file system when i want to save a file. i just click the pull down menu and click it. and the K menu being a mess, edit it yourself and make it better. and if you are going to ask about trivial featrues, how do i get gnome to change desktop's every minute, how do i get it to zoom icons, how do i get highly intergrated features. if im not incorrect, if they add something to libkde, all kde programs can benifit, like the cups module and the scanner module. however, gnome does keep getting better, and it didn't have the licening issue that kde used to. and it is a damn good example of how software should evolve. instead of getting slower, they made it better and speed this shit up