Author Topic: Lindows is the future of Mainstream Linux.  (Read 980 times)

new2linux55

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 41
  • Kudos: 0
Lindows is the future of Mainstream Linux.
« on: 6 June 2003, 14:27 »
Like it or not for the "mainstream" custemer that dont want to worry about hardware or software conflicts can buy Londows pre installed on pcs.....
Totally out of the box.

And man look how cheap those Pcs are...gotta get me one soon.

Now all you linux nuts may disagree as u all like doing everything youreself....etc.....

Im talking about for the average joe here.

Walking into a store looks at this super fast pc and says wow thats cheap ill buy that !!!

oolooz

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 22
  • Kudos: 0
Lindows is the future of Mainstream Linux.
« Reply #1 on: 6 June 2003, 15:19 »
quote:
Originally posted by new2linux55:
Like it or not for the "mainstream" custemer that dont want to worry about hardware or software conflicts can buy Londows pre installed on pcs....


Or buy Red Hat pre-installed, or buy Mandrake pre-installed, or Slackware if you like.

Paying for Lindows will add to cost not reduce it.

Why would anyone want to use that whelped bastard of a Linux OS anyway?

ooloooz

Refalm

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,183
  • Kudos: 704
  • Sjembek!
    • RADIOKNOP
Lindows is the future of Mainstream Linux.
« Reply #2 on: 6 June 2003, 17:42 »
<Sarcasm>Oh look, a Wallmart PC with Lindows pre-installed. And that VIA C3 processor must be faster then AMD, and all those other hardware that auto-destruct after one year must be great too!</Sarcasm>

Calum

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 7,812
  • Kudos: 1000
    • Calum Carlyle's music
Lindows is the future of Mainstream Linux.
« Reply #3 on: 6 June 2003, 17:50 »
Refalm, like it or hate it, if the salesman tells the average buyer all that bullshit, they will probably believe it, in the absence of any other reliable information.  
quote:
Originally posted by oolooz:


Or buy Red Hat pre-installed, or buy Mandrake pre-installed, or Slackware if you like.

Paying for Lindows will add to cost not reduce it.

Why would anyone want to use that whelped bastard of a Linux OS anyway?

ooloooz



this is very true. once other distros get over the OEM stranglehold that MS' EULAs put on them, LindowsOS (i hope) will be totally swamped by suse, RH and mdk, the current 3 biggest and most user friendly distros.
visit these websites and make yourself happy forever:
It's my music! | My music on MySpace | Integrational Polytheism

DJ

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 161
  • Kudos: 0
    • http://mypage.iu.edu/~dpjackso
Lindows is the future of Mainstream Linux.
« Reply #4 on: 6 June 2003, 17:54 »
  • Perhaps because it has a more centralized method of installing / finding program files? (If not more centralized, more familiar
  • Much more similar familar GUI, not that it matters but we all know how opposed to change 'they' are
  • More easily compatible with the formats they already know and use (Face it they don't want to work to get anything "It should just work") As I am sure many tech support calls can verify
  • "Easy to use wizards..." as stated on Xandros's website (Not Lindows but would be a lot more familiar for someone coming from Windows than compiling and depdencies)

Sensing the familiarity trend here? I would agree, while I may or may not like Lindows, OSs or similarly configured ones are always gonna attract more people than the traditional *nices (RH, MDK, etc). Not that these aren't good and don't measure up on these compatibilities but people switching over are not gonna want to go through /etc/XFRee86/... to get their video drivers updated

My $0.02 take it for what it worth

Dj
=)

Calum

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 7,812
  • Kudos: 1000
    • Calum Carlyle's music
Lindows is the future of Mainstream Linux.
« Reply #5 on: 6 June 2003, 19:04 »
red hat comes with a complete complement of wizards, and mandrake has its own dedicated operating system control panel just like windows, red hat will even install a version of wine on there for you if you ask it to, and this is all over and above the excellent kde3 and gnome2 control centres.
visit these websites and make yourself happy forever:
It's my music! | My music on MySpace | Integrational Polytheism

Laukev7

  • VIP
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,834
  • Kudos: 495
Lindows is the future of Mainstream Linux.
« Reply #6 on: 7 June 2003, 02:16 »
And why exactly should one prefer RH/Mdk/SuSE to Lindows?

[ June 06, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]


TheQuirk

  • VIP
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,154
  • Kudos: 315
Lindows is the future of Mainstream Linux.
« Reply #7 on: 7 June 2003, 02:46 »
For one thing, you're not automatically logged as root, a great, big, security "hole".

Pantso

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 1,249
  • Kudos: 55
    • http://www.support-freesoftware.org
Lindows is the future of Mainstream Linux.
« Reply #8 on: 7 June 2003, 02:55 »
quote:
Originally posted by Laukev7:
And why exactly should one prefer RH/Mdk/SuSE to Lindows?

[ June 06, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]



1 - Security! As TheQuirk said, when installing Lindows you're always logging in as root. That is ONE BIG security hole in every *NIX-like OS!

2 - Configurability! Lindows doesn't let you do any kind of advanced configuration, unless you're a mazochist and like digging deep down and beyond those fancy GUI wizards that Lindows comes with.

3 - Control of your installation! Face it. With Lindows you don't have any option when installing it on your machine.

4 - Software! Lindows ships on one CD, I think. SuSE 8.2 on the other hand ships with 2 (!!!) DVDs of software to choose from as well as 7 CD-ROMS!

5 - Documentation! SuSE Linux comes with 2 500+ pages manuals. What does Lindows come with? Nothing!

If you're thinking of downloading a Linux distro, Lindows is not an option. SuSE isn't an option either, but RH, Mandrake and just about every Linux distro out there can be freely downloaded.

I hope I've answered some of your questions.  

oolooz

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 22
  • Kudos: 0
Lindows is the future of Mainstream Linux.
« Reply #9 on: 7 June 2003, 03:09 »
Lindows 3.0 costs $129.

rh/mdk don't.

oolooz

Oh, the logged on as root thing, I beleive they fixed it in version 3.0

[ June 06, 2003: Message edited by: oolooz ]


Laukev7

  • VIP
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,834
  • Kudos: 495
Lindows is the future of Mainstream Linux.
« Reply #10 on: 7 June 2003, 03:34 »
Thank you for your answers. I tried all three main distros, and many others, but have never tried Lindows before. I am already familiar with Linux, but I was wondering why so many dislike Lindows.

I have heard of the logging as root issue, and I agree that it is a security problem.

[ June 06, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]

[ June 06, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]


Fett101

  • VIP
  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,581
  • Kudos: 85
    • http://fgmma.com
Lindows is the future of Mainstream Linux.
« Reply #11 on: 7 June 2003, 04:21 »
That's for the full version with a membership and the click and run warehouse.

Bare bones Lindows is $49.95

The lindows site looks amazingly similar to Apple's site.

mushrooomprince

  • Member
  • **
  • Posts: 415
  • Kudos: 55
Lindows is the future of Mainstream Linux.
« Reply #12 on: 7 June 2003, 10:49 »
*yawn* THis is just the beginning .. hopefully people will respect lindows more when they start putting it on better machines.
All your base are belong to us.