Author Topic: Slammer downed Nuclear Power Station!  (Read 959 times)

jasonlane

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Slammer downed Nuclear Power Station!
« on: 20 August 2003, 16:44 »
For own own physical safety and for the health of our industry Microsoft MUST go. This has gone far enough when Nuclear power plants are affected.

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It seems M$ cannot, after years and years of disaster and arrogance on the part of Redmond. produce software that is safe or produced with the consumer in mind.

They, M$, have been giving this Industry and the consumers the run around for long enough.

They have attained their place in the world through deception and plagerism and have sustained this solely through vast PR bugets.

They need their assest stripped and the company needs to be broken up.

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« Reply #1 on: 20 August 2003, 18:30 »
this is why BSD and other stable operating systems should be used for mission critical situations.
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« Reply #2 on: 20 August 2003, 20:24 »
BSD is good, very stable but it's best used for servers and power users. QNX has been designed specially for embeded systems and critical tasks such as power plants and hospitals, where a system must keep on working at all costs. A problem only crashes a specific part of the QNX kernel, and the rest of the system continues working while the afflicted part of the kernel restarts, which makes QNX an extremely stable system.

Now, I really don't see why one would even need Microsoft Windows in a power plant, other than for office work.

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« Reply #3 on: 20 August 2003, 21:19 »
i don't see why it would be needed at all even for that, except for people's innate requirement to put their faith in bullshit, perhaps this is the most powerful reason why windows is still used in serious business environments. oh yes bullshit makes the world go round...
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« Reply #4 on: 20 August 2003, 22:09 »
I think the problem arose with some of their monitoring systems, that they claimed were non critical. However it still closed the plant down and besides I would have thought that was irrelevant. The point, surely should be that all systems in that sort of enviroment should be viewed as critical, you'd like to think so.

People should remember what has already happened in other industries, like the Bopal Chemical plant disaster, you'd know then that seemingly trivial incidents can lead to disaster.

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« Reply #5 on: 20 August 2003, 22:44 »
What the $%^&!  Doesn't the windows liscence agreement clearly state that it isn't for use with mission critical stuff like nuclear reactors??
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« Reply #6 on: 20 August 2003, 23:11 »
and the GPL clearly states that it is not claimed that this software will be fit for a particular purpose or any purpose, and still it goes on. The BSD licence doesn't say ANYTHING except that the software is based in part on something that comes from the university of california.
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