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« Reply #15 on: 31 May 2002, 21:16 »
ah yes,

I use XP on my laptop because it was designed for XP. if i tried to put linux on it i would have so much conflict problems i would end up taking it out to the garage and hitting it with a hammer and chisel. i use windows 2000 advanced server on my main pc and i have a linux box connected to the net and everything else connects to the linux box.
once again get your story straight little man
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« Reply #16 on: 31 May 2002, 21:20 »
Huh? I have computers (Linux computers) to do my 24x7 monitoring for me.  In fact they even monitor all the Windows servers.  They know when the hard drives are getting full, they know when there are critical messages in the event logs. They know when the processors are maxed out. They know when a service is down. They know when there is a router problem. They know if someone is trying to hack the firewall. They page the appropriate admins to fix their little Windows problems when they occur. They graph the traffic on all the router interfaces. They know when viruses are being passed around the network, they know when John Q. Public is surfing porn. And they still find time to act as Windows NT File and Print servers.

Tools I use for the above:
http://www.netsaint.org/
http://www.bb4.com/
http://www.mrtg.org/
http://www.snort.org/
http://www.cert.org/kb/acid/
http://www.samba.org/

And guess what? All for only the cost of the hardware. Maybe you could make a difference in your company by getting rid of some of those M$ servers and saving them a bundle. You might even get a promotion.

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« Reply #17 on: 31 May 2002, 21:23 »
i have nothing against linux voidman, it is just not appropriate for a network of over 1000 xp laptops, get my drift?

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« Reply #18 on: 31 May 2002, 21:25 »
Who would have a network of over 1000 XP laptops?  It's approapriate for me with 2500 NT workstations and over 200 NT servers. I would imagine it would be just as appropriate for your network.
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« Reply #19 on: 31 May 2002, 21:26 »
oh and isn't it a shame that BB4 is available on NT4 and 2000 platforms.

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« Reply #20 on: 31 May 2002, 21:27 »
Why would that be a shame?
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« Reply #21 on: 31 May 2002, 21:28 »
2500 NT workstations eh? i thought you people despised windows

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« Reply #22 on: 31 May 2002, 21:32 »
oh and mrtg is available on windows too.

its a shame because you say u use all those linux tools and their sooo good they do everything for you and yet their available on windows.

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« Reply #23 on: 31 May 2002, 21:32 »
That's WHY I despise M$. Especially when it's M$ audit time. I also have around 50 Sun servers and about 200 Linux servers. The NT population is going down and the Linux population is rising. Not as fast as I would like, but it's a steady pace.
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« Reply #24 on: 31 May 2002, 21:34 »
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Originally posted by cyrax-:
oh and mrtg is available on windows too.

its a shame because you say u use all those linux tools and their sooo good they do everything for you and yet their available on windows.



Why would that be a shame? Have you ever run either of them on Windows, and then run them on Linux?  I can't imagine that anyone would *want* to run them on Windows but that's what makes open source so cool. It doesn't leave *anyone* out, unlike proprietary companies...
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« Reply #25 on: 31 May 2002, 21:39 »
please tell me what is wrong with windows 2000 advanced server and NT besides the fact that it costs money?

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« Reply #26 on: 31 May 2002, 21:50 »
I happen to be running 2000 Advanced Server on my laptop under VMware (don't use it as my desktop OS, just for testing/development purposes).

First let me say that 2000 is probably M$'s best OS. But it still has all of the limitations of all of the other M$ oses. It costs money. It's closed source. It's susceptible to viruses. IIS sucks. Automation of administration tasks is an extreme pain in the ass. You still have to reboot whenever you install many apps even though that was supposed to be history. Doesn't come with a compiler. Command line sucks. UNIX is MUCH easier for automation so I don't have to spend so many hours at the office.
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« Reply #27 on: 31 May 2002, 16:01 »
isn't it a shame that xmms, KDE, GNOME, Enlightenment, and so on are not available for windows? i don't think so, who cares? Also, may i just say (as an example) that "ipconfig", a DOS tool, is no longer included with win2000 or XP. Useless.

Microsoft spend all their time making sure their product is incompatible with anything except certain versions of windows. They spend little effort (seemingly) on development, and by that i mean debugging.

Also, their closed source model enables bugs to quite happily reside inside Microsoft's products for years, sometimes indefinitely. The longer life of bugs in a closed source piece of software means that there will be a much higher number of bugs present at any given time, and because of the limited number of "developers, developers, developers... et c" (if they are doing their job they are really debuggers), less work gets done.

Let's not even mention the fact that those developers are on a salary and so they have no personal stake, financially or emotionally, in how good a program works in the end.
 
Compare this with an environment in which as many developers are welcome on a project as want to be on it, and everybody doing the work is doing so solely because of a personal interest in their work.

Economics suggests that it is in Microsoft's interests to produce nonworking and soon to be obsolete products since those products will happily be replaced by those who paid for them once, and always at a high price. It's planned obsolescence, a well known phenomenon of a capitalist economic environment.
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Originally posted by cyrax-:
i have nothing against linux voidman, it is just not appropriate for a network of over 1000 xp laptops, get my drift?


your drift is going in a completely nonsensical and erratic direction. The first half of your first (31st May) recent post is alright, but then you drivel off into moronity again, seriously, all you do is talk shit, it's not even the shit that a real dumbass would say, so you are obviously making it up.

When this forum first started, we got a lot of pro windows morons but this recent rash of fake dumbasses, who are obviously just shit stirrers really get my goat. Are you all Microsoft employees or what? what's the motivation for pretending to be a dumbass online while hiding behind a stupid fake name?

PS, and re: your earliest post from today, learn about paragraphs before you bother posting, please.

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« Reply #28 on: 31 May 2002, 17:47 »
Ah, IPCONFIG IS included with windows 2k and XP, its there in place of winipcfg.    and windows 2000 datacenter supports 8 cpu's  

Calum, i thought you knew i was joking? relax

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« Reply #29 on: 31 May 2002, 17:48 »
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