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« on: 1 September 2003, 15:02 »
The Topic is The Question   :confused:   Yea I am a n00b to this don't remind me
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« Reply #1 on: 1 September 2003, 15:29 »
GNU = GNU is Not Unix
BSD = Berkley Sofware Development

basically different flavours of unix.

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« Reply #2 on: 1 September 2003, 15:36 »
UNIX ???
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« Reply #3 on: 1 September 2003, 15:39 »
Hi,

GNU = Linux ... http://www.gnu.org/

BSD = Unix (Generally System 5 based) http://www.bsd.org/

You should use Linux to start with, once you are happy that you can fly it, then take a look at one of the BSD varients.

BSD is generally a server OS and you need to know what you are doing to get it configured correctly. It is however VERY, VERY SECURE AND RELIABLE AS YOU CAN SEE HERE http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html

Have fun

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« Reply #4 on: 1 September 2003, 15:41 »
I recently downloaded Mandrake Linux 9.1 I will use it soon  ;)  WHat is UNIX ?
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« Reply #5 on: 1 September 2003, 15:44 »
history of unix

History of linux
History of GNU
History of BSD


Sime beat me to it...

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« Reply #6 on: 1 September 2003, 15:45 »
OK,

for a full introduction / history etc of Unix in all its glory ...

http://wks.uts.ohio-state.edu/unix_course/unix.html

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« Reply #7 on: 1 September 2003, 19:20 »
for another quick potted history of what GNU and BSD are about, click here, this is basically the whole contents of several books i read, squished onto one page.
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« Reply #8 on: 1 September 2003, 23:16 »
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Originally posted by sime:
GNU = Linux ...


Wrong. Linux is just the kernel. When discussing a GNU/Linux system, the discussion is talking about a system running the Linux kernel, along with the GNU tools.

GNU software runs on all Unices. Also, GNU  actually is working on their own implementation of a Unix-like kernel called "Hurd"--work started on it at around the same time as work on Linux did, except Linux emerged much faster, and thus, was adopted as the defaco, more or less.

I'm just telling you that so you won't say "GNU = Linux" around Stallman zealots (who I, BTW, hate)--they'll skin you alive.
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« Reply #9 on: 1 September 2003, 23:27 »
quote:
I'm just telling you that so you won't say "GNU = Linux" around Stallman zealots (who I, BTW, hate)--they'll skin you alive.


Oh come on, you can't bag a man for wanting to be semantically correct, especially given the work he's done for Free Software.  (ooh FS and G/L in one post am I a zealot now?     )

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GNU - write a lot of Free Software that all GNU/Linux users use.

Linux - one (albeit very important) piece of software that all GNU/Linux users use.

BSD - write a lot of software used by GNU/Linux and BSD users.  I use a few BSD servers, they use a lot of GNU stuff too.  It's a sharing thing.  

There are philosophical differences between the three groups, any one of them will get pissed off if you confuse them with another group.  (rightfully so IMO)

Unix - the OS (family) GNU, Linux, Mac OSX and BSD are based on / members of.

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« Reply #10 on: 2 September 2003, 02:05 »
GNU is the operating system you use when running "Linux"

Linux is only the Kernel

so it would look like this

-(Linux Kernel)-'''-(GNU)-'''-(KDE)-'''-(USER "YOU")-
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« Reply #11 on: 2 September 2003, 02:16 »
Isnt KDE like a GUI or a BSD System ? Does that make Gnome a KDE ?? or are they diffrent
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« Reply #12 on: 2 September 2003, 06:33 »
KDE is a window and desktop manager, that runs on top of thge X-windowing GUI system

so it is.

(Linux Kernel)-(GNU Utilities)-(Xwindows)-(KDE/GNOME/WMaker/IceWM)-(Applications)-(You)
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« Reply #13 on: 2 September 2003, 08:41 »
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GNU is the operating system you use when running "Linux"


No, it is a sizable portion of the OS but not the whole thing.  Both GNU programs and the Linux kernel go together to make one whole OS.   ;)
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« Reply #14 on: 2 September 2003, 11:17 »
to kinda break it down, I'll give you the name of a Linux component and translate it to Windows and Mac OS X

Linux: X11
Windows: GDI
Mac OS X: Quartz

Linux: KDE or Gnome
Windows: Explorer
Mac OS X: Finder

Linux: window manager
Windows: Luna or Windows Classic UI
Mac OS X: Aqua

So, as root@localhost said:

(Linux Kernel)-(GNU Utilities)-(Xwindows)-(KDE/GNOME/WMaker/IceWM)-(Applications)-(You)

or

(Windows Engine)-(NT libs)-(GDI)-(Luna)-(Apps)-(you)

or

(Mach)-(Darwin utils)-(Cocoa layer)-(Quartz)-(Apps)-(you)

honestly all OSes use a similar separation of their components. what the components are, how they work, and how it appears to you can differ drastically
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