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[lazygamer]

quote:
You may have noticed, but I live in Canada, so our perceptions may not be the same. Personally, I believe nobody should carry any weapon at all (and the Canadian law agrees with me). I also think that prostitution and marijuana should be legalised, just like in Netherlands, but the Canadian law does not agree with that (yet).

I'd like to pipe in here about a subject I feel extremely strong about. Canadians are not anti-gun pacifists, there are plenty of pro-gun Canadians(I totally agree with Striker that needing a permit is BS, even worse is needing a permit that is extremly difficult to get just for personal protection purposes), it's just that Canadians and firearms are not stereotypical like in the US.

I also agree with Striker about questioning laws.

We shouldn't encourage Warez on these boards, but there ain't much point in discouraging it either. Just keep quiet on the subject, that's all.  

[Laukev7]

quote:Originally posted by lazygamer:


I'd like to pipe in here about a subject I feel extremely strong about. Canadians are not anti-gun pacifists, there are plenty of pro-gun Canadians(I totally agree with Striker that needing a permit is BS, even worse is needing a permit that is extremly difficult to get just for personal protection purposes), it's just that Canadians and firearms are not stereotypical like in the US.

I also agree with Striker about questioning laws.

We shouldn't encourage Warez on these boards, but there ain't much point in discouraging it either. Just keep quiet on the subject, that's all.    

I did not speak for all Canadians, hence the key word 'Personally', and I respect your opinion, Lazygamer. And, as I said before, I never disagreed that we should not question laws; in fact, I do question some of our own. My point was that evocating that truth does not prove a law right or wrong.

[lazygamer]

I'm aware that you don't speak for all Canadians, I just felt that the people outside of Canada needed to see that there are canadians on both sides of the issue, just in case they feel Canada is very one sided towards the issue.  

[Laukev7]

quote: Cant remember who it was but it was something to the effect of 'flap always appears when the topic of proprietary/software pirating is brought up'.

That was me. I do admit that it was quite hypocritical of me to say that.  

[mobrien_12]

quote:Originally posted by flap:

You don't have to mindlessly abide by their "policy". Yes; discourage the use of proprietary software in all circumstances, but don't ever discourage copying because the law says it's wrong.
[ July 15, 2003: Message edited by: flap ]

How about discouraging copying because its morally wrong?

Yeah there are white and grey areas, but saying something like "company X sells product Y but you should not pay company X because you can download product Y for free on a p2p network" isn't one of them.

I like Linus' philosophy "What's ours is ours and what's theirs is theirs."

[ July 19, 2003: Message edited by: M. O'Brien ]

[flap]

I'm not of the misguided opinion that copying is wrong.

And Linus doesn't have any "philosophy" - he's just an apolitical nerd. He could have done a lot of good for the free software movement but he doesn't particularly believe in it.

[Laukev7]

quote: I'm not of the misguided opinion that copying is wrong.

What an overbearing claim. Who are you to dictate what is misguided?

[jasonlane]

Immitation is the highest form of flattery. If people didn't copy to some extent we'd never have left the dark ages. The Renaissance would have never happened.

I think there is often confusion between term copying and plagerism.

   

quote:"What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done there is nothing new under the sun"

ECC 1:9

So in certain respects the law at the moment is draconian, obviously it has been set up to protect peoples rights and property but I think sometimes lawyers get carried away with it?

[ July 20, 2003: Message edited by: Zardoz ]