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TheKnifeThrower

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« on: 29 August 2003, 03:16 »
I am thinking of giving up on linux completely and sticking to windows. I am no computer n00b but linux has given me endless trouble.

I've seen a ton of open source P2P apps for linux but nearly all of them require wxwindows. I install wxwindows but when I try to run one of these P2P apps I get an error about libwx_gtk-2.4.so not being found

I've had to install linux 3 times in one day because the NVIDIA driver wouldn't work and fucked up my system. I may have found a solution to this problem but I am fucking pissed off.

When I click on the mozilla shortcut I get a message saying I cant open mozilla more than once (not really fucking pissing me off, more of an annoyance)

If I can fix then NVIDIA problem tomorrow then I will probably use linux more but if this fails I will not use it for a very long time.

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« Reply #1 on: 29 August 2003, 03:22 »
Which distro are you using?

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« Reply #2 on: 29 August 2003, 20:27 »
"Linux" is pretty vague when your refering to your operating system.  Redhat SuSE Lindows ?

c'mon man which is it ?
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« Reply #3 on: 29 August 2003, 20:55 »
Mandrake 9.1 is what I have. The driver worked before but it was an erlier version. I've forgotten the version so can someone tell me which version works with mandrake 9.1

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« Reply #4 on: 29 August 2003, 20:58 »
What is the nvidia problem? what happens? The distro you're using is irrelevant if you get the source rpm for the drivers. and you should definitely never need to reinstall the system because a graphics card driver installation goes wrong.

are you already running mozilla when you click on the mozilla link?
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« Reply #5 on: 29 August 2003, 21:50 »
Ye I am already running mozilla when I click on the link. And I'll try the source. And when you have no fucking clue how to do stuff on a linux console apart from copying and renaming files you're stuck. So I need to reinstall.

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« Reply #6 on: 29 August 2003, 22:03 »
If you just want another mozilla window open you can just select the existing window and press Ctrl-N, or got to File/New Window.
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« Reply #7 on: 29 August 2003, 23:02 »
The problem seems to be when I need to edit the XFree86 config file. When I change the "nv" to "nvidia" and restart the pc x wont work. When i tried to restore the config file from a backup it still wouldn't work.

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« Reply #8 on: 29 August 2003, 23:04 »
have you tried using the graphical display settings thingy? that's what i do, then simply go to runlevel 4 then back to 5. i dont know if it'd make a difference or not, but it's worth a shot.

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« Reply #9 on: 29 August 2003, 23:33 »
Are there any error messages when you try to start x? Do you definitely have the driver installed?

See if
find /lib -name 'nvidia*'
returns anything.
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« Reply #10 on: 30 August 2003, 03:41 »
quote:
Originally posted by TheKnifeThrower:
The problem seems to be when I need to edit the XFree86 config file. When I change the "nv" to "nvidia" and restart the pc x wont work. When i tried to restore the config file from a backup it still wouldn't work.


Ok.  

1)  This isn't microsoft so you don't have to restart the pc.  As root, type
   init 3
To go to console mode.

Edit the XF86Config file from there using pico (very newbie friendly console editor).
    pico /etc/X11/XF86Config


modprobe the nvdriver and agpgart modules before starting X (you shouldn't have to do this but we need to make sure they are loading to eliminate variables in the initial setup).
   modprobe nvdriver
   modprobe agpgart

Start X.  
   startx

If it doesn't work, it will either just kindof hang with a black screen or dump back into console mode.  If it sort of hangs hit ctrl-alt-backspace to kill X and try editing again.  This is much faster than rebooting.

2)  I havn't used the latest version of the nvidia drivers but there were other changes you had to make for the last version.  Here is my XF86Config file parts
Code: [Select]


3)  Note that after installing nvidia's proprietary driver the nv module DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE.  If memory serves correctly, it's because of the massive changes to GLX.  If you comment out GLX it should work again, or you need to uninstall the nvidia proprietary drivers.

[ August 29, 2003: Message edited by: M. O'Brien ]

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« Reply #11 on: 30 August 2003, 03:41 »
I think I will try finding some help on the http://www.nvnews.net/ forums. But jsut one more question. How do I shut down the pc from a linux terminal.

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« Reply #12 on: 30 August 2003, 03:49 »
shutdown -h now
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« Reply #13 on: 30 August 2003, 08:28 »
There if I have a gripe about linux, and why it sort a suck's is the install, no offence mate, but if you know nothing about computer hardware and software...yep linux can be a bitch.....lol

However if you can get it to run, you wont want to turn back I'm sure once it's setup, and you have the applications you need to work... You'll see how good it is...  

But after saying all that as long as you use, standard hardware.. I.E not propritery box's from say dell... RedHat or Suse Should both install and detect your hardware... It's one of those things it need's improving however the linux community doesn't have resource's to keep up with manufacture's. Though they do a bloody good job..

We haven't the resouces like Microsoft, and we can still get a better system... We just need to make the install easyer for newbie's..

LINUX RULES (ONCE THE INSTALLERS SORTED >>!!)

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« Reply #14 on: 30 August 2003, 12:08 »
I know linux is a great OS and thats why I really want this to work. I don't blame linux people. It's those fucking batards at NVIDIA.