Will linux defat or reduce Microsoft, if yes when.

[T-Wood]

I just wanna see what everyones opinion is.

Apple has been defeated by Microsoft, but can Linux , and the open source community do it?
If yes How long do you think itll take?

[DukePuke]

I dunno actual information, but i know fact, that simple user count who uses linux for their personal desktops increases. Actualy I am one of these, but btw i still cant get rid windoze in my second comp.. I just too familiar with office programs, and I dont know how I would write laboratory work with KEdit

[ecsyle_one]

Apple was defeated? When?

[WMD]

^ Agreed.  Both Linux and Mac together can beat Microsoft.

[skyman8081]

quote:Originally posted by Tristan(in a different thread by accident):
Apple is kinda out for the count, i am in no way a mac hater. in fact im typing this on my powerbook pismo.

Apples Chances of catching up are slim, the only chance i can see is if they release an x86 version of Os X (which could be a good idea i suppose. I wish they would so i dont have to have windows anymore.

But this thread isnt about apple its abut linux and open source

if Apple released OSX for x86 it would seriously hurt them more than it would help.

you don't buy a Mac for the OS, or the processor or the hardware.

What makes a Mac, a Mac?

Everything.

It is the way Apple wraps the Hardware AND Software into one very complete package that Makes it a Mac.

if Apple released OSX for x86 you would just be another STEP for x86, only slightly prettier.

[ecsyle_one]

quote:Originally posted by Tristan:
Apple is kinda out for the count, i am in no way a mac hater. in fact im typing this on my powerbook pismo.

Apples Chances of catching up are slim, the only chance i can see is if they release an x86 version of Os X (which could be a good idea i suppose. I wish they would so i dont have to have windows anymore.

But this thread isnt about apple its abut linux and open source

If Apple wanted the market share that MS enjoys, they would have it. Who cares about market dominance anyway. I don't want to see Linux become the next windows, even if it is better. I would love to see a nice range. Some windows machines, Linux, BSD, Steps, Macs, whatever, all working together. GNU/Linux guys talk about choice and freedom, yet all they want is to lock every one down into one platform. Like Microsoft. I like choice, and if that means choosing windows over linux, then so be it.

[ April 09, 2004: Message edited by: ecsyle.artformsdesign ]

[preacher]

Don't be impatient, it might take 20 years, or even 50, but Microsoft can't last forever, and someone will have to step up.

[Refalm]

Mac OS, Linux and UNIX are winning on the server front:



More information.

[T-Wood]

Unfortunately this thread is about linux and open source, at this point i dont think apple can catch up to microfsoft in the home pc market.

Apple does Kick ass though. that x86 thing was only a thought.

[insomnia]

quote:Originally posted by ecsyle.artformsdesign:

If Apple wanted the market share that MS enjoys, they would have it. Who cares about market dominance anyway.

Every firm that makes money.

   

quote:Originally posted by ecsyle.artformsdesign:
I don't want to see Linux become the next windows, even if it is better. I would love to see a nice range. Some windows machines, Linux, BSD, Steps, Macs, whatever, all working together. GNU/Linux guys talk about choice and freedom, yet all they want is to lock every one down into one platform. Like Microsoft. I like choice, and if that means choosing windows over linux, then so be it.

     

No offence, but you're wrong.
Their can't be any free choice when MS has a monopoly.

I don't like OS X, but don't mind people using it.
(That's free choice.)

I do mind people using MS Windows.
It's partly their fault MS has this monopoly.

If you like freedom of choice,
you don't want MS to keep existing.


                     

[ April 17, 2004: Message edited by: insomnia ]

[hm_murdock]

quote:No offence, but you're wrong.
Their can't be any free choice when MS has a monopoly.

There can't be... not their :-p

And how do you figure? If there is now choice, then why am I sitting here with an Apple computer? How is it that you run Linux? There obviously IS choice.

 

quote:I don't like OS X, but don't mind people using it.
(That's free choice.)

And why don't you like it? I'm just curious. It doesn't matter to me, but it would help me understand a lot of your opinions better I think!

 

quote:I do mind people using MS Windows.
It's partly their fault MS has this monopoly.

Partly, yes.

 

quote:If you like freedom of choice,
you don't want MS to keep existing.

Perhaps. However, removing them as a choice does do just that. Removes another choice.

[insomnia]

quote:And how do you figure? If there is now choice, then why am I sitting here with an Apple computer? How is it that you run Linux? There obviously IS choice.

We're both not stupid.

 

quote:And why don't you like it? I'm just curious. It doesn't matter to me, but it would help me understand a lot of your opinions better I think!

I don't dislike it.
It's just not my thing.
I like to do everything from source.

 

quote:Perhaps. However, removing them as a choice does do just that. Removes another choice.

I know.
Still, ...
I don't care about them.
If you want to use MS, you should know people will dislike you.

[ April 17, 2004: Message edited by: insomnia ]

[preacher]

There obviously is a choice, and it is indeed viable. After all there are many mac users who don't own a PC and many linux users who don't run windows at all(such as me).

Those who don't see it as a viable solution might have different needs than us as computer users, however all of the different systems have essentially the same set of basic features and that makes them viable to a large audience. That audience chooses not to use the different options for any number of reasons, but my main belief is availability. Linux is rarely found pre-installed on anything. Macs aren't carried in nearly as many places as PC's. I think this puts both of these two options at a great disadvantage. Macs have a much greater advantage than linux does to overtake windows on the desktop market because of the fact that it is available a lot more than linux already.

[insomnia]

quote:Originally posted by ThePreacher Linux Game Master:
Macs have a much greater advantage than linux does to overtake windows on the desktop market because of the fact that it is available a lot more than linux already.

Euhm...
Nope.
Thing is,
OS X doesn't run on PC...
So MS doesn't care about them.(as long as PC remains bigger...)
The reason why Linux will beat MS, is cause it's free.
They can't buy it and they can't use their money to stop it.

[fireprogrammer]

If linux want's to beat microsoft they will have to spend more time in advertising, most people think that linux is a text oriented OS. People should be aware of the danger of installing WINDOWS, you will not only get a constantly crashing system, but also the virusses and anoying pop-ups are included if you use the system for a while.

fireprog's quote: If you like freedom of speech, don't use microsoft.