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An interesting question
psyjax:
quote:Originally posted by Chooco:
it would rock if they managed to get that MacOS thing be CONSOLE BASED meaning you login as console and you can do stuff in console just like Linux. it would make AWESOME servers and there's tons of compatible stuff in terms of games ;)
all Mac needs is FreeBSD with a GUI that is easy for dummies to use (like me). i don't mean that it wipes your ass for you but it would at least be simple.....simple as Windows but powerful as Linux (and actually include the console this time)
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Hey Choco, sorry I havent been around lately or I would have set you guys straight on this
The MacOSX console is located under Applications->Utillities. Drag it to your dock to keep it handy. It works using the standard UNIX shell commands.
MacOSX is hevely based on freeBSD if you start up and hold down Apple+v you get to see the familiar UNIX debugging junk, and as someone has already pointed out you can run without the GUI in pure darwin mode by typing >console in the login.
Also, if you donn't want the GUI even installed on your system, Darwin is freely available for download. There is even a version fo XFree86 that runs both under Darwin and also rootless withing Aqua (the OSX GUI)! This to me is the coolest thing, I can actually be running KDE and MacOSX Aqua at the same time as if they were both the same GUI. Is that cool or what :D
Anyway...
OSX makes a great server, I use an old 233iMac G3 as a server and it runs great, even with the GUI. Granted, the GUI is slow, but it's webserving is not bad at all! Especially for the old hardware it is running.
Have a go at a Mac, their the best thing around as far as commercial OS's IMHO.
voidmain:
quote:Originally posted by Trumpet Winsock:
In OSX, you can just login as >console, which will forego all the GUI stuff. No modifying of files.
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But it was my understanding that only gets you to "single user mode". In which case networking and other things would not be started. Is that correct? And what if you want it to automatically boot up to a console login when powered up (acting as a GUIless server for instance)?
Chooco:
yo i don't have a Mac on me so i have to ask. how do you use the console? are the commands just like Linux/BSD commands?
psyjax:
quote:Originally posted by Chooco:
yo i don't have a Mac on me so i have to ask. how do you use the console? are the commands just like Linux/BSD commands?
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They are very diffrent from Linux commands, that is, as diffrent as standard UNIX commands are from linux.
As far as UNIX commands go, yes. All of my reffrence materials are for BSD UNIX. I'm still very much a newbie at all this, but from what I have seen nearly every single command works as listed in all the manuals I have read.
Why shouldent it? It's the same kernel, for more on Darwin, far more than I could ever tell you, check out these links:
http://darwinfo.org/
or
http://developer.apple.com/darwin/
Void:
Im still looking in to your question, as I said I'm kind of new to this stuff
Is there a simple way to test if you are in single or Multi-user mode? I mean all of the network commands work under Darwin mode, I'm not on the internet so I can't have someone ssh to me right now.
(Home from school for the summer, my comp. is in one room and I'm posting from my parent's computer. Ah... to be a goldbrickin college student ;) )
[ June 18, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]
voidmain:
psyjax, the Darwin commands are *very* similar to Linux commands. Linux, BSD, Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, etc etc, all have the same basic commands with some added commands specific to the OS/hardware but the "basic" commands are all pretty much the same. Very minor differences. I have snooped around on my coworkers Mac through "ssh" and was very comfortable..
[ June 18, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]
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