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GNOME2: And I thought M$ was the only people ripping off Apple
« on: 14 October 2002, 10:32 »
http://www.gnome.org/start/2.0/screenshots/

Ummmm....

Something fishy about some of the element's in Gnome 2. Anyone used it yet?

How OSX-ish is it?
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GNOME2: And I thought M$ was the only people ripping off Apple
« Reply #1 on: 14 October 2002, 11:02 »
It looks like it will kick KDE's crappy closed qt based ass.
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GNOME2: And I thought M$ was the only people ripping off Apple
« Reply #2 on: 14 October 2002, 14:29 »
looks that way, doesn't it? while i was under the impression that the qt/kde thing was now all open source, so that's all right then, i am happy that GNOME looks like it might be closing, or have already closed, the gap between itself and KDE.

i think i will be eager to try out the new GNOME...

hey! is this version of GNOME the same one i will be getting with the download edition of Mandrake 9.0, or did we just miss that one? I'll need to go and chack that one out.

re: does it look like OSX, not so sure, looks more like KDE to me!

and what is it with linux desktops that try to look like solaris? granted this is just solaris wallpaper, but still... what's the reason?

oh i get it! they're showing you can theme it like other desktop environments! i like this one: Think Different, unless you want Apple to sue you.

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GNOME2: And I thought M$ was the only people ripping off Apple
« Reply #3 on: 14 October 2002, 14:53 »
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Originally posted by Ex Eleven / b0b:
It looks like it will kick KDE's crappy closed qt based ass.


KDE's Qt toolkit was, is and will be superior! And it has stopped being closed source ages ago! You should really check it out before posting      

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GNOME2: And I thought M$ was the only people ripping off Apple
« Reply #4 on: 14 October 2002, 15:18 »
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Originally posted by psyjax:
http://www.gnome.org/start/2.0/screenshots/

Ummmm....

Something fishy about some of the element's in Gnome 2. Anyone used it yet?

How OSX-ish is it?


Hmm, let's see. What do those screenshots remind me of cause there's something really familiar about them! Could it be the OS X desktop? Could it?    :D    :D
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GNOME2: And I thought M$ was the only people ripping off Apple
« Reply #5 on: 15 October 2002, 03:37 »
Maybe OSX copied Gnome?
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GNOME2: And I thought M$ was the only people ripping off Apple
« Reply #6 on: 15 October 2002, 03:39 »
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Originally posted by Calum:

and what is it with linux desktops that try to look like solaris? granted this is just solaris wallpaper, but still... what's the reason?


What makes you think it's Linux and not Solaris?  I believe Solaris is switching to Gnome as a default desktop environment. You've been able to run Gnome and I believe even KDE on Solaris for quite some time now. In fact if you look at the system details window that is open you will see the machine is a Sun Ultra 5 with an UltraSparc processor, running SunOS 5.9 (Solaris 9).

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GNOME2: And I thought M$ was the only people ripping off Apple
« Reply #7 on: 15 October 2002, 03:46 »
quote:
Originally posted by Panos:


Hmm, let's see. What do those screenshots remind me of cause there's something really familiar about them! Could it be the OS X desktop? Could it?     :D      :D  


I haven't used OSX but I've used Gnome for a few years now and I don't believe there has been any drastic changes in the looks. Maybe OSX copied Gnome? What specifically do you see that looks similar?
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GNOME2: And I thought M$ was the only people ripping off Apple
« Reply #8 on: 15 October 2002, 03:47 »
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Originally posted by void main:
Maybe OSX copied Gnome?


To get serious: having used both all I can say is that they are ages apart although I haven't used GNOME 2.0 yet. I think though that the dock appeared first in OS X and then in GNOME 1.4.* (correct me if I'm wrong). Apple's infamous menu bar and Finder though are a completely different story since they've been there from the beginning.
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GNOME2: And I thought M$ was the only people ripping off Apple
« Reply #9 on: 15 October 2002, 03:54 »
I am serious. I have always liked KDE better than Gnome although I have been using Gnome2 since installing RedHat 8.0. What exactly is the "dock"? Is it the top menu they show? If so, there is no top menu in RedHat's default installation of Gnome, I personally do not like that top menu. In fact I could get along just fine with one ICON and no menu at all. The ICON could be labeled any of the following "Eterm", "Konsole", "xterm". But I'm not normal.  

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GNOME2: And I thought M$ was the only people ripping off Apple
« Reply #10 on: 15 October 2002, 03:55 »
quote:
Originally posted by void main:


I haven't used OSX but I've used Gnome for a few years now and I don't believe there has been any drastic changes in the looks. Maybe OSX copied Gnome? What specifically do you see that looks similar?


The dock, the home icon, the menu bar, the folder looks etc. Anyway, it was widely known that you could make either KDE or GNOME resemble Mac or Windows desktops so the default GNOME desktop may be a bit different. But who cares, as long as it's not M$ products we're talking about?  
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GNOME2: And I thought M$ was the only people ripping off Apple
« Reply #11 on: 15 October 2002, 04:07 »
quote:
Originally posted by void main:
I am serious. I have always liked KDE better than Gnome although I have been using Gnome2 since installing RedHat 8.0. What exactly is the "dock"? Is it the top menu they show? If so, there is no top menu in RedHat's default installation of Gnome, I personally do not like that top menu. If fact I could get along just fine with one ICON and no menu at all. The ICON could be labeled any of the following "Eterm", "Konsole",  "xterm". But I'm not normal.    


This is a picture of the dock which is located at the bottom part of the desktop in OS X. However from what I recall you could switch it off in GNOME 1.4. As for the Konsole I know what you mean   ;) . I'm trying to use it in OS X but Darwin is a bit more different in the command line so i'm still trying to learn it    
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GNOME2: And I thought M$ was the only people ripping off Apple
« Reply #12 on: 15 October 2002, 04:27 »
Hmmm, I can't seem to get to the picture you linked to. Can't resolve the server name you used. Is there a typo?
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GNOME2: And I thought M$ was the only people ripping off Apple
« Reply #13 on: 15 October 2002, 04:31 »
Maybe I'm too idealistic, but I think they should come up with their own desktop metaphors. Alot of the programms and other stuff seem to be direct rips of software from other companies. Take for instance that extreemly iTunes looking Music player. It's even layed out the same.

I dunno, maybe it's so people will be attracted to the similarities between Linux desktops and other more popular OS's, but just because it's a better OS, dosn't justify ripping off someone elses look and feel.

From the looks of it, it seems to be a bizzare hybrid of OSX and Windows.

It would be neet to see a grupe program a whole new Desktop Environment, using an all new metaphore. Now that's competition and inovation!
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GNOME2: And I thought M$ was the only people ripping off Apple
« Reply #14 on: 15 October 2002, 04:32 »
doesnt almost all GUIs have that "dock".

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