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flap:
quote:Originally posted by Panos:
The Webmaster of this page must be a prophet or something. Take a look at what's burried inside the main page's HTML code:
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No offense of course to more logical and open-minded people like Calum for example and many others who know who they are. Needless to say that I agree. ;)
[ April 15, 2003: Message edited by: Panos ][/b]
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That suggests the webmaster doesn't understand why the "irrational elements of the Linux community" dislike Microsoft, and it indicates that the reasons he dislikes them and favours Apple are primarily practical; for example because OSX is better software than Windows. That's undoubtedly true, but if Windows were free software I would without hesitation support it over OSX.
For him to denigrate people who demand freedom and label them "rabid" is a shame really.
Pantso:
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That suggests the webmaster doesn't understand why the "irrational elements of the Linux community" dislike Microsoft, and it indicates that the reasons he dislikes them and favours Apple are primarily practical; for example because OSX is better software than Windows. That's undoubtedly true, but if Windows were free software I would without hesitation support it over OSX.
For him to denigrate people who demand freedom and label them "rabid" is a shame really.
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I would like to see you respond point to point like Faust did on my previous post as well as psyjax's. Let me remind you that I run a whole site about free and open source software and that I also donate to the FSF. Now, go on read my other post as well and respond.
[ April 15, 2003: Message edited by: Panos ]
Calum:
i agree totally with the webmaster's comments all except for the inference that linux users dislike macs.
i think that just shows an example of the tendency of macintosh users (and apple computer) to create a rivalry where there is none. perhaps mac users have always felt a rivalry with microsoft or intel, and now, because they know those companies have lost their dynamism and are not as much fun to be rivals to, they turn on linux.
who knows why? but there is nobody on this world who will convince me that this pathetic mac vs linux thing was not started by apple computer and perpetuated by macintosh users (some, not all).
no offence intended, i had a lot more to say but panos, psyjax and faust largely covered it all already.
Pantso:
quote:Originally posted by Calum: crusader for peace & freedom:
i agree totally with the webmaster's comments all except for the inference that linux users dislike macs.
i think that just shows an example of the tendency of macintosh users (and apple computer) to create a rivalry where there is none. perhaps mac users have always felt a rivalry with microsoft or intel, and now, because they know those companies have lost their dynamism and are not as much fun to be rivals to, they turn on linux.
who knows why? but there is nobody on this world who will convince me that this pathetic mac vs linux thing was not started by apple computer and perpetuated by macintosh users (some, not all).
no offence intended, i had a lot more to say but panos, psyjax and faust largely covered it all already.
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I really don't feel any hatred towards Linux users, as I'm one of them myself and have been for six years. I can recognize the benefits of Linux as well as the benefits of OS X. Sorry if I offended anyone. I'll stay in the forums of course as long as we stay focused on battling M$.
Faust:
[contrite]Psyjax valid points, most covered already in my reply to panos[/contrite]
actually whats *not* covered is your response to 5 and following from that 6 which i think are good (sorry Panos but better than yours... :-P ) arguments. some form of "mac emulator" made by apple would be a nice gesture of aide though. ;)
re : kde/gnome suck bit. yes they do. this is why i use blackbox / enlightenment which I personally prefer to the Mac GUI. (not an attack - each to their own yeah?) the only thing i miss is a centralised "system control" part and that can be compensated for with webmin / linuxconf.
if it can be added to a menu then why do i "need" to use a terminal? Linux is not stuck back in the pre-gui days so please dont spread FUD.
to reiterate i am not "jealous" of the Mac GUI. I wish it all the respect it deserves of course, but I still like my own GUI's
at the end of the day its an ideological issue i guess which brings it close to religion which makes arguments on the topic "messy." my apologies to anyone i've offended - i believe Mac OSX is good, but I also believe it would be made "better" and would be more "ideal" if it was fully GPL. Maybe my young age makes me a hopeless idealist and your old age makes you all cynical and well... "realistic."
you obviously belive differently to me but the difference is slight and this is supposed to be an MS bashing forum so truce?
EDIT : actually re the mac GUI - most of it I'm not overly fond of but I do like the fact that it runs in openGL.
[ April 15, 2003: Message edited by: Faust ]
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