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the real reason wintel boxes are inferior to Macs...
hm_murdock:
Well, I've had a Quadra 840av for ages now. Yes, the cool old one with the 40MHz 68040. The one that has the 66MHz DSP in it for video and audio processing.
The one that was seven grand new.
Yeah. I've got one.
But anyway, I was at a friend's house and... for some reason, I had it and my Power Mac 7200 (beloved machine) out in the car. My friend's dad is a moron and just got a POS new Hell, I mean Dell.
What a turd. The plastic case is so fucking cheap that I cracked it by leaning too hard against it.
So, knowing that I use Macs, he looks at me and says "Hey, bet you can't do THIS on any of your Apples!"
He then plays a short video clip.
I look over at my friend, we go outside, bring in the 840av along with a mouse and my trusty VGA adaptor. We plug his dad's shitty Dell screen into the Quadra (I'm still apologizing to my baby) and I plug a VCR into the Quadra via the RCA video in, and the sound via an RCA to 1/8" adaptor to the mic in port of the Mac.
I fire it up, plug the cable TV into the tape player and we watch tv shows on the Quadra.
Then I look at the imbecile dad and say "No, you're wrong! But the real question is... why would I waste my time with a music video when I could watch TV on a Mac from 1993?"
Wintel boxes get so old and so decrepid so quickly that it hurts. That Quadra shames anything my dad has (older P2 Dells and Compaq boxes from 300 to 500MHz). Running OS 8.1, it's more reliable than windoze 2000.
There's just no comparison to the useful life between Macs and x86 boxen. I put Mac OS 9.1 on my 7200... a 120MHz Power Mac with 112MB of RAM is running the highest version OS available for it. 9.1 was released in 2001. The 7200 came out in 1995. Would you dream of installing Windows Me or 2000 on an x86 box that hit the streets in 1995? Never.
Oh yeah, I popped a USB/Firewire combo card as well as a Radeon Mac Edition video card in the 7200. A G3-on-a-PCI-card upgrade might be next.
Or maybe it's getting close to time to retire it?
Nah.
Zombie9920:
quote:Originally posted by Jimmy James: Mac Commando:
Well, I've had a Quadra 840av for ages now. Yes, the cool old one with the 40MHz 68040. The one that has the 66MHz DSP in it for video and audio processing.
The one that was seven grand new.
Yeah. I've got one.
But anyway, I was at a friend's house and... for some reason, I had it and my Power Mac 7200 (beloved machine) out in the car. My friend's dad is a moron and just got a POS new Hell, I mean Dell.
What a turd. The plastic case is so fucking cheap that I cracked it by leaning too hard against it.
So, knowing that I use Macs, he looks at me and says "Hey, bet you can't do THIS on any of your Apples!"
He then plays a short video clip.
I look over at my friend, we go outside, bring in the 840av along with a mouse and my trusty VGA adaptor. We plug his dad's shitty Dell screen into the Quadra (I'm still apologizing to my baby) and I plug a VCR into the Quadra via the RCA video in, and the sound via an RCA to 1/8" adaptor to the mic in port of the Mac.
I fire it up, plug the cable TV into the tape player and we watch tv shows on the Quadra.
Then I look at the imbecile dad and say "No, you're wrong! But the real question is... why would I waste my time with a music video when I could watch TV on a Mac from 1993?"
Wintel boxes get so old and so decrepid so quickly that it hurts. That Quadra shames anything my dad has (older P2 Dells and Compaq boxes from 300 to 500MHz). Running OS 8.1, it's more reliable than windoze 2000.
There's just no comparison to the useful life between Macs and x86 boxen. I put Mac OS 9.1 on my 7200... a 120MHz Power Mac with 112MB of RAM is running the highest version OS available for it. 9.1 was released in 2001. The 7200 came out in 1995. Would you dream of installing Windows Me or 2000 on an x86 box that hit the streets in 1995? Never.
Oh yeah, I popped a USB/Firewire combo card as well as a Radeon Mac Edition video card in the 7200. A G3-on-a-PCI-card upgrade might be next.
Or maybe it's getting close to time to retire it?
Nah.
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I bet my 2.53ghz P4 Northwood w/1GB of 1,200mhz RDRAM, 120GB 7,200 RPM ATA-133 IDE drive(I am going to be moving to SCSI storage soon)beats the piss out of any Mac on the market right now. IT is fast....devilishly fast.
(EDITED because of a typo)
[ January 21, 2003: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]
xyle_one:
quote: I bet my 2.53ghz P4 w/1GB of 1,200mhz RDRAM, 120GB 7,200 RPM ATA-133 IDE drive(I am going to be moving to SCSI storage soon)beats the piss out of any Mac on the market right now. IT is fast....devilishly fast.
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i dont know about that. my dual 1ghz mac rocks every PC i have used. i guess it also depends on what the test will be. if its buring a dvd while working on a couple HUGE (300+mbs) images, uploading shit to my website, and listening to iTunes play mp3 off of my firewire drive. maybe we can play amovie in quicktime also. I dont think your (or anyones) pc can do that. maybe one at a time, but not all at once, flawlessly.
i have seen some pc vs mac benchmarks, but they were all single tasks. and the pc barely wins. when was the last time you worked on one thing at a time? my mac multi-tasks like a champ. where as i cant move a window in windows without winamp or whatever skipping like fuck.
Zombie9920:
quote:Originally posted by Xyle: iGeek...:
i dont know about that. my dual 1ghz mac rocks every PC i have used. i guess it also depends on what the test will be. if its buring a dvd while working on a couple HUGE (300+mbs) images, uploading shit to my website, and listening to iTunes play mp3 off of my firewire drive. maybe we can play amovie in quicktime also. I dont think your (or anyones) pc can do that. maybe one at a time, but not all at once, flawlessly.
i have seen some pc vs mac benchmarks, but they were all single tasks. and the pc barely wins. when was the last time you worked on one thing at a time? my mac multi-tasks like a champ. where as i cant move a window in windows without winamp or whatever skipping like fuck.
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There is something wrong with your PC then. My system(s) can multitask like a champ. Right now I'm burning a CD, playing a 630MB MPEG in WMP9, surfing the net, uploading some files to my FTP space and I have Project 64(N64 emulator) running with a 60MB ROM loaded(Conkers Bad Fur Day) and the system isn't hiccuping at all. As a matter of fact, I still have 54% of my CPU cycles left according to my CPU meter. Now, if I were burning a CD with a burner that works only in PIO mode there would be some troubles. Gotta love DMA transfer modes on storage devices.
Your problem with the PC could be your OS(Win9x can't multitask for shit if you are using 9x), you could have a PIO hard drive(or your BIOS has DMA disabled)), you have a small amount of RAM, you have a crappy video card or something has your OS installation bum-fucked or it could be a combination of more than 1 of the above.
If this was a Dual CPU or a Hyperthread enabled system, I would only be using like 8-12% of my CPU cycles.
[ January 21, 2003: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]
xyle_one:
my pc is a dual athlon with 1gig ddr. 2 40gig ibm 7200 rpm drives, 2 18gig ibm scsi drives, geforce 3 64mb, running windows 2k. its runs really cold ;) . so heating is not a problem. xp ran like shit, so i upgraded to 2000 (i should have just used radHat, but, until autodesk & discreet produce their software for other os, i will have windows in my house). all of the hardware works fine together. i have scoured the web for info about my system and it just comes down to the fact that it is inferior to my mac.
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