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Zombie9920:

quote:Originally posted by Jimmy James: Mac Commando:
Right now, Apple's claim to fame is quality and software. That's why I use Apple computers instead of PCs. I can't run Mac OS and OS X on x86 boxes. And even if I could, I'd have to worry about IBM's shitty static BIOS concept rearing its ugly head and fucking things up, making hardware configuration a true Pain In The Ass(TM)

[ January 21, 2003: Message edited by: Jimmy James: Mac Commando ]
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Maxtor drives aren't that bad. They are better than Western Digitals for sure. Western Digital drives have always given me problems. We've had alot of WD drives returned to us where I work because of problems that our customers had with them too. When it comes to quality, I recommend a Seagate Barricuda. They are fast, quiet and reliable. Maxtor comes to a close second place. Maxtor drives are damn good for as cheap as they are. I think that Apple should do something about thier current line of G4's. I think it is time for Apple to unveil the G5 or at least a G4 that is considerably faster than what they have today(get those suckers to 2ghz or something). Apple needs to get on the bandwagon of updating the technology that thier motherboards use too. You are pissing in the wind when you slap a fast processor into a mobo that has bad memory bandwidth(PC-133 SDRAM really does suck by todays standards) and slow hard drive transfers(aren't Macs still limited to ATA66 or ATA100?).

(EDIT)Fuck IBM BTW. Why would you use a anything made by IBM or anything that uses IBMs' technology(like the BIOS you mentioned)? Personally I prefer boards that use an Award BIOS. I have never had any configuration problems nor have I had my BIOS configuration changed without me making the modifications with a standard Award BIOS.

[ January 22, 2003: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]

cahult:
Why would anyone run a movie, burn a CD and do many other things at the same time? Only those who wanna show off do this. Don

hm_murdock:
Zombie,

In everything, individual experience varies. My experience with drives has been the reverse. Maxtors failing and WDs going strong for years, years, years. Not saying you're wrong. Just saying all of my Maxtors have died horribly while all my WDs have been the acme of reliability.

About the BIOS, I'm just talking about the original PC BIOS. I, too, rather like Award's BIOS. It's the best PnP implementation I've seen on x86.

And like I said, the hardware bottlenecks that plague Apple's hardware are strangling them. dual 1.25GHz G4s really could whip the shit outta the 3GHz Northwood P4... if they didn't have the world's shittiest architecture around the G4s. They don't fully utilize the DDR RAM, and the G4s are starved for bandwidth.

The next Power Macs need... really need... at LEAST 1.8+ GHz processors, serial ATA, a good DDR architecture that actually works, and other things that can't be described as "so 1999".

choasforages:
now as for pc vs wintel, i think zombies machine would be a bit faster. then agian, moterola/*SP*/ has really been dragging their feet. but then agian, in the AIM/*no, not the instant messanger, the Apple IBM Moterola*/ pact hopefully IBM can delever with the ppc 970. and its a damn shame that the alpha is getting scraped for the itanic, but this is a mac forum so ill talk about it later. on the what i have done.

ok, i got my powermac 9500 a month or so ago, pluged it into my network, and when i told it to it configured itself with dhcp. and i didn't need to reboot it. i though that was pretty cool, but it only has a 1 gig harddrive in it. so i was thinking, and looking at my 100gig western digital/*most of the harddrives i have are WD's, then agian, the quaility is probably down all around*/ since i don't have an expensive ata card for the mac, i went and loaded netatalk up on my main linux box. low and and clicked the chooser and selected the drive. entered my username and password, and it mounted the drive. and started installing software on it and using itunes. unlike my experiances with samba, it is a nightmare on both ends.

preacher:
Here is something for you fools. My PC plays great games like Counter Strike, Quake, Unreal Tournament, BZFlag, and more, I can burn CD's at 8x(thats as fast as my burner goes), watch movies in a lot of formats thanks to mplayer, realplayer, xine, xmovie, and ogle for DVD's, I have OpenOffice 1.0 for office documents, KDE 3 for eye candy, Mozilla for browsing, and The Gimp for graphic manipulation, and its all on my 200 mhz PC. The thing never crashes, and it only shows its age when compiling programs from source. Best thing is that the pc only cost me $15.

Lintel kicks ass. (Linux + Intel)

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