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When it comes to abortion you have to choices. Ruin one unborn person's life, who is most likely still microscopic. or ruin 2 or 3 lives,
gees....do you know what you are saying?!? the choice: KILL an unborn human, end his or her life before they live it because of the actions of others, or make the lives of a few people less comfortable. to ME, that is not a hard choice, and it should NOT EVEN BE A CHOICE. murdering is illegal, so i don't know WHY abortion is allowed to begin with!! am i the only one here who thinks this is absurd!?
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not to mention all of the other people that have to pay for these people.
well i'm glad your starting to refer to the 'fetus' as a person now..that's a start. it is another human being, cost should have no bearing. if you can not be responcible enough to take care of the human you spawn, then you disearve the hardships that come with him/her.
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Because they can't afford a house and medical bills and all the shit attached to a kid.
well, then they should have thought of that before they went fucking!
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Now if you wanted to, being a pro lifer, were to take this child that is most likely addicted to crack already into your house and pay for it, I have no problem with outlawing abortion. But you aint gonna take someone elses drug addicted kid into your own family.
seeing as how i'm 15, that doesn't really seem possible.
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I don't understand how deer don't have souls but humans do.
seeing as how the 'soul' is a religous 'thing', no you obviously don't understand. whether you believe in god or not, you must admit that humans are superior to deer in a myriad of ways. if you don't have a religion, then
this is what i'm refering to, or the closest thing i can corelate it to
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And, if not, when in the course of evolution did man cease to be an animal and become a soul-bearing 'man'?
IMO, when we were first able to out think all other animals, which would lead to the human origins, whether it be creationism or evolutionism
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Assuming, of course, you believe in evolution.
actually, i do. as i said, i don't hold much beleif in the bible, and i do not believe much of the Church's explainations of our origin. i have made my own beleifs on our origin, because i both beleive in evolution and creationism, although i believe more evolustion then creation because creationism is a little far fetched. i DO think that every species is evolving, but i think that everything started with god creating everything. for example, how would the 'evolutionism' theory explain the start of the universe explain how the universe "is"? no! it has even been found that for evolution to create everything found on earth, it would take 140,000 times longer then the earth has existed (i'm sorry, i have no link to any scientific study it what you need is proof of my claim).
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And of course the more rational scientific theory you believe in the more difficult it is to swallow superstitious religious bullshit.
i DO believe in a lot of scientific theory! i love sciencies--my favorite are (and in this order)
1) biology
2) Chemistry
3) astronomy
and i do well in every one of them. i love science. i'm probibly going into medical research, but i'm not sure yet (seeing as how i'm a sophomore, i think i have time to decide)
and can you beleive i'm still a christian? and that i still believe in most christian ideals? weird, eh?
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And once again, I wonder how can you not see how pathetic it is that you call yourself "pro-life" when you're out there ending the lives of deer for your own amusement.
hmm...well, wonder on. i'm am pro-life, when it comes to abortion. as was mentioned in another thread in the lounge, i am pro- capital punishment. frankly, the life of a deer is not important. if you show me any evidence of deer creating society and using crude inventions or inginuity, then i will except them as intelligent beings.
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I really do wonder why right wingers feel so offended by the idea of unborn lives being destroyed, when all they want to do to the living is brutalise and oppress them.
:confused: all i want to do is brutalise and oppress unborn humans? i do not understand this, please explain
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Do people like Bush + you feel cheated out of the opportunity to make another poor bastard's life miserable everytime an abortion takes place?
uh, no. i feel human society might have lost it's best member every time an abortion took place. what if your mother had an abortion with you? obviously you wouldn't be here talking to us, but how would that make you feel (again, that's kinda weird cause u'd be dead....just go along with it
) and how do you know the aborted human would be a "poor bastard"??
it's amazing the ability you have to predict the lives of other humans. i wish i was as omnicient as you!! maybe i could win the lottery and i wouldn't have to worry about the 12-18 years of college i'm goign to have to pay for...