wow I need eye candy

[kibawarior]

All I want to say is my mac is gust wicket the eye candy is brill in every way but I cant seem too make many changes to the way my desktop looks its ok though. I dont really need any hekp for that I just wanted to see your desktops.

[hm_murdock]

eh?

[psyjax]

quote:Originally posted by evil fucking bastard jimmy james:
eh?

http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/shapeshifter/

this seems to be the utility de jure. It used to be duality, but now most of the big theme builders are building for this.

Go to http://www.resexcellence.com/ for a comprehensive theme archive. Make sure to only use themes intended for panther, because you may render your system unbootable. There are also utilities for recovering from such a crash.

Let me know.

[ November 26, 2003: Message edited by: psyjax: plain 'ol psyjax ]

[Pissed_Macman]

Oh yeah, themes seem fun at first, but once you end up passed out in the bathroom and you haven't eaten for three days you'll change your mind. I've been clean six months now.

[ November 27, 2003: Message edited by: Macman: No longer posts here ]

[preacher]

quote:Originally posted by psyjax: plain 'ol psyjax:


http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/shapeshifter/

this seems to be the utility de jure. It used to be duality, but now most of the big theme builders are building for this.

Go to http://www.resexcellence.com/ for a comprehensive theme archive. Make sure to only use themes intended for panther, because you may render your system unbootable. There are also utilities for recovering from such a crash.

Let me know.

[ November 26, 2003: Message edited by: psyjax: plain 'ol psyjax ]

Wow a theme manager that might leave a whole system unbootable. I guess Mac OS isn't so much like other *nix after all.

[psyjax]

quote:Originally posted by ThePreacher:



Wow a theme manager that might leave a whole system unbootable. I guess Mac OS isn't so much like other *nix after all.

Heh... Ive installed a shitty GTK theme that left GNOME unbootable  

Besides, the instructions are very clear. Don't use themes not made for the current system. The program even warns you before you apply the theme, that it may toast your GUI (if the theme is an old version).

So most toasting of the GUI occurs from people takeing that risk. For the record, I have only had one incident in the years I have themed OSX.

And it was because I didn't heed the warning.

[Calum]

how can gnome be unbootable? simply change to runlevel 3, sort out the config file that's causing the damage and change back to gui level. no need to attempt a reboot at any point!

as for macOSX's gui rendering the system unbootable i suspect this is down to the system being too closely integrated with its gui. only one other system takes this too far, and it;s down the kludgie totally as operating systems go. plus apple and ibm both need to learn to stop copying microsoft's shitty assed ideas like this if they want more than niche markets in the software world.

[hm_murdock]

quote: plus apple and ibm both need to learn to stop copying microsoft's shitty assed ideas like this if they want more than niche markets in the software world.

Mac OS X's CoreGraphics layer works the same way as it did when NeXTSTep was released in 1988. Hardly copying off MS's shitty ideas.

As for making the system unbootable, hardly. Aqua requires the file Extras.rsrc to render the UI. Without this file, Aqua cannot start. To repair it is fairly simple on Macs that can boot OS 9. Start up to 9, and replace your backup copy of it. IF you dick around with the themes, you better be smart enough to have a backup of it.

Or, you could just log into OS X as console, or boot into single user mode and restore the file via the command line.

And no, OS X is not like "other UNIXes" because it's not "another UNIX". You idiots need to fucking learn when I tell you things.

I'll say it one last time. MAC OS X IS BUILT ON NEXTSTEP WHICH IS NOT A TRUE UNIX VARIANT.

[flap]

Yes it is. NeXt is a BSD-based system, as is OSX. Considering apple themselves are quick to tout OSX as being "Unix based" I don't know what your problem is. Whether it "is Unix" or not is arguable, since unofficially the term "Unix" is pretty nebulous so it's difficult to say that one thing is Unix and another thing isn't.

[suselinux]

quote:Originally posted by flap:
Yes it is. NeXt is a BSD-based system, as is OSX. Considering apple themselves are quick to tout OSX as being "Unix based" I don't know what your problem is. Whether it "is Unix" or not is arguable, since unofficially the term "Unix" is pretty nebulous so it's difficult to say that one thing is Unix and another thing isn't.

Then just say it's BSD based  

[Calum]

quote:Originally posted by flap:
Yes it is. NeXt is a BSD-based system, as is OSX. Considering apple themselves are quick to tout OSX as being "Unix based" I don't know what your problem is. Whether it "is Unix" or not is arguable, since unofficially the term "Unix" is pretty nebulous so it's difficult to say that one thing is Unix and another thing isn't.

no it isn't. unix is a trademarked term, and anything that is not officially labeled "unix" by the so called "open group" (the group of private companies with ownership of the word unix), is simply not unix.

i might add this includes linux, all the bsds, nextstep, macosx, hurd, aix, sunOS, solaris ad infinitum. NOTHING is unix, when you look into it at all.

this is why i think people should justget over it and realise that unix is used conversationally to describe systems which share a general set of concepts and aims rather than actually "being" unix in any way.

the "is it really unix" argument is even more dumb and pointless than the "which distro of linux is better" one.

[flap]

Yes it is. He was suggesting they're not "Unix variants", which is arguable, but NeXt and OSX are Unix-based. That doesn't mean they necessarily are Unix, either officially or "conversationally".

And for the record, AIX and Solaris actually are certified Unix by the Open Group.