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flap:

quote:EVERYONE don't use Winamp. I used to use Winamp back in the day....but Windows Media Player 9 is so damn good that I won't ever go back to Winamp. The taskbar player, the interface, the full screen scroll off video controls, the Tru-Bassand WoW Effects on top of the equalizer, the ability to recover everything about the album of the song you are listening to(icluding album art), the ability to quickly, easily and reliably burn CD's from the media player(can burn from WMA, MP3, Wav and Ogg(with the appropriate plugin), the online music store(like iTunes), the visualizations support, the Plus Speaker Enhancements, etc. are more than enough for WMP to beat out Winamp hands down.
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This is why so much Microsoft software is shit. Microsoft and its users still don't get that a good piece of software should be a machete, not a swiss army knife. I use XMMS to listen to music because it can do the following:

Play sound files

(actually it can do a bit more than that but it's not an entire operating system like mediaplayer tries to be)

I use cdrecord to burn cds because it can burn cds. The reason why Mediaplayer is such an inelegant, bloated piece of crap is because it can do all that stuff you've just listed. Maybe in the next version WMP will have an entire SQL database engine built into it so you have something else to shout about, and so it takes another 10 minutes to start.

Zombie9920:

quote:Originally posted by flap:


This is why so much Microsoft software is shit. Microsoft and its users still don't get that a good piece of software should be a machete, not a swiss army knife. I use XMMS to listen to music because it can do the following:

Play sound files

(actually it can do a bit more than that but it's not an entire operating system like mediaplayer tries to be)

I use cdrecord to burn cds because it can burn cds. The reason why Mediaplayer is such an inelegant, bloated piece of crap is because it can do all that stuff you've just listed. Maybe in the next version WMP will have an entire SQL database engine built into it so you have something else to shout about, and so it takes another 10 minutes to start.
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Some people like having a Swiss army knife. I'd rather install a 8.4 MB media player that can do it all than install a 2.5 MB media player to play Audio, a 6-10 MB media player to play video, a 3MB addon to the audio media player to give it visualization support, a 1MB addon to give the Audio player the ability to be minimized into the taskbar...if the media player has a taskbar plugin(the video player still won't have the taskbar capability), and so on.

A person saves time and hassle if he/she can do everything they want to do with one media player with out of the box capabilities to do it all.

If WMP is so bloated then why is it only 8.4MB for Windows XP? MusicMAtch is like 30MB, RealOne is like 16 or 17MB. WMP is not bloated. It is actually a pretty quick media player. If you really think that 8.4MB is blaoted you need to get off of the 2GB Hard drive/32MB of Ram computer.

8.4MB isn't shit on a 120GB hard drive and 768MB of RAM.

[ May 01, 2003: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]

Faust:
Drugs.  They are bad bad things.

The Sony whatever the heck brand of CD burning and the ogg burning are they only interesting features I can see.  What is so good about high MAT?  More space/faster?  I can burn oggs in linux btw so unless this high MAT turns out to be really killer thing WMP still sucks.
Not to mention that you can have winamp open without losing 90% of your screen estate.
online music store - cough, P2P, cough, music CD better than downloads, cough, cough
the visualizations support - um, who would be sad enough to just sit there staring at swirling colors while listening to music?  oh and xmms can do those "things" too btw, not that you would want it too
easily and reliably burn CD's from the media player - not many OS's dont support cd burning these days.  CD burning isnt the defining glory that it used to be, get over it.  can it record DVDs?  I dont think so...
oh and speaker effects/wow enhancements suck.  This actually isnt anti WMP, all software based equalizers cant handle distortless audio modification.  what you want is a hardware amplifier, software amping is only useful for making el cheapo headphones get a louder (although horribly distorted) bass response, its the same in linux and windows, s/ware amping sucks.
oh and have you read the WMP9 EULA?  The one that says you give MS the right to upload "revocation lists" to your computer?  :D  
Oh and I know winamp is crap for videos, thats why i dont use it.  Also it wont run under linux but hey.  Oh and Xine isnt primitive boyo, you've never used it anyway so how would you know?

Faust:
MusicMAtch is like 30MB, RealOne is like 16 or 17MB.

also music match is even crapper than WMP.  which is of course saying a *LOT*.
realplayer... lets not go there.
is there any good windows movie player???

Faust:
Its not so much that the code is bloated (even if it is) it's that the interface is bloated with all the crap that it does.  I mean really that is a butt ugly interface.

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