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slave:
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2002/tc20020522_5198.htm

psyjax:

quote:Originally posted by Windows XP User #5225982375:
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2002/tc20020522_5198.htm
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Who are you Windows XP User? I must know, your so uterly clueless.

This guy is arguing that iChat and iTunes ar knock offs of third party stuff?

give me a fucking break! iChat is a Chat client, there are dozens, of chat clients. A few are compatible with several standards such as AOL. Likewise iTunes like software has and still does exist. MacAmp anyone?

None the less,

The guy in the article ends up actually praising Apple for makeing better, more stable versions.

Christ dude, get your head on straight.

It's not like Apple claimed the invented the chat client or MP3 player, they just offer their own. And if you don't like it, drag it to the trash and it's gone. Unlike some other OS's I know of.

guess what I did a few days ago.

i threw away IE. And It's gone, not a trace of it on my system.

Good ridance.

EDIT:

Oh ya, not to mention that the writer is an obviously M$ biased windoid as he is a bit cluless as to what goes on in the Have a look at this:

http://osx.hyperjeff.net/

Excellent collection of 3rd party stuff that can make your computer do anything short of standing up and tapdancing.

so go shove a M$ laser mouse up your butt and wag the chord like a tail.

[ May 24, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]

slave:
Then why do you have this double standard of when Apple knocks off stuff you don't have a problem with it and actually praise them for it, but to this day I still hear Mac users cursing Microsoft for stealing the idea of a GUI from them.. give me a break.  And don't get me started on open source... they've never innovated anything.

psyjax:

quote:Originally posted by Windows XP User #5225982375:
Then why do you have this double standard of when Apple knocks off stuff you don't have a problem with it and actually praise them for it, but to this day I still hear Mac users cursing Microsoft for stealing the idea of a GUI from them.. give me a break.  And don't get me started on open source... they've never innovated anything.
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Because unlike M$, Apple actually does make a better product. Dosn't attempt to squeltch all competition, dosn't undermind the makers of 3rd party apps. Often, in the case of iTunes etc., the application goes far beyond third party alternatives and is a total keeper.

M$ will put out crap like Windows, WMP, or IE then force people to use it. Windows was a blatant lift from the MacOS and OS2 warp were they blatantly fucked several companys over to force them down peoples throats not to mention OEM's etc.


Besides, this guy is a dipshit. Back in the days of OS 7 where there was no control strip, I used a 3rd party app that gave me a psudo controll strip. When the new OS came out, I scraped the Ap because apples control strip was better. Not that I couldent use the alternative of cource cuz apple did nothing to prevent me from doing that.

See, it's a matter of choice and ethics. If Apple came out with iTunes, wired it in to OS X, then made it a living hell to throw away or run MacAmp (which I like cuz you can record streming radio with it). Not only that, but apple went after MacAmp with FUD tactics, predetory tactics, and an army of lawyers like M$ does then I would be complaining.

Also, another cool thing, is you don't have to install what you don't want to use. The Installer actually lets you customize the OS down to it's bear essentials!!! WOW what a concept!

So get lost.

slave:
Why do you say IE and WMP are shit?  IE is currently the best web browser in the world, it initially wasn't but Netscape was slow and overconfident, and Microsoft worked hard and beat them.  And WMP, while not perfect, plays video very well.  I personally use WinAmp for audio, however.  Quicktime on Windows sucks donkey balls and consumes much RAM; so does RealPlayer which is huge spyware and all that other 3rd party rubbish.  Microsoft is where it is because I believe they make the highest quality software.  It has taken them a while to get there but Windows XP is a great OS and only a fruitcake would complain about anything in it.  If there were something better, people would be using it.  The Mac OS may arguably be better but the Mac hardware and price tag sure aren't!  And now Microsoft will soon release a service pack to Windows XP that will let you easily install and uninstall all of Microsoft's bundled software.  

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-922147.html

It is beyond me why anyone would want to do this, since IE kicks Netscape's ass, and that open-source abomination Mozilla that is buggy as hell and takes 30 seconds to load.  However, not everyone wants MSN messenger or WMP installed, I guess.  So no more whining from anyone about MS forcing people to use their products; they never have anyway and now they are even letting competitors put their stuff in Microsoft's own OS!  I'd like to see Apple even let you buy a Mac that doesn't come with their OS or god forbid buy one from a 3rd party source.

[ May 24, 2002: Message edited by: Windows XP User #5225982375 ]

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