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psyjax:
We did complain about the Mozilla bug. It was patched in record time. MacOS X is based on an open source OS, freeBSD UNIX. In essense it is UNIX as all *NIX's are pretty much the same in structure.

OS X did not destroy UNIX, like M$ did to mosaic. Nor did Apple try and shirk their obligations under the GPL licence. Darwin, the UNIX core, is open source and free to develop for. M$, a company devoted to illigalizing open source, has stolen OS components from the open source comunity, notably elements of FreeBSD and such. Recently they were even convicted of piracy in france.

As far as bugs, and patching go. Open source does it faster and more efficiently. M$ took forever to patch their most vulnerable bugs while Mozilla did it in under a month. Windows has allways been newutoriously buggy and bloated and M$ has allways draged their ass about fixing it. Then when a bug fix is finaly released they make you pay. Win 95 to Win 98 is everyones fav. example of an overpriced bugfix.

Also, M$'s bundling of IE into the interface, presents an inherant security risk. Because holes, like the one found in Mozilla, have existed and might still exist in IE it putts the entire OS at risk at more time. I can quit Mozilla and end any threat, you can't quit IE even if you tried.

Final, M$'s product activation and retrocative EULA are the most underhanded efforts to control the user experience I have ever heard of.

M$ is not a good company by any streach of the imagination. They live only fo money, and not a desire to actually make good products.

EDIT:

here are a few good links concerning M$'s long history of decite and trechery:

http://www.kmfms.com/
http://www.enemy.org/

[ May 24, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]

Zombie9920:

quote:Originally posted by Windows XP User #5225982375:
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Master of Reality:

quote:Originally posted by Windows XP User #5225982375:
Why do you say IE and WMP are shit?  IE is currently the best web browser in the world, it initially wasn't but Netscape was slow and overconfident, and Microsoft worked hard and beat them.  And WMP, while not perfect, plays video very well.  I personally use WinAmp for audio, however.  Quicktime on Windows sucks donkey balls and consumes much RAM; so does RealPlayer which is huge spyware and all that other 3rd party rubbish.  Microsoft is where it is because I believe they make the highest quality software.  It has taken them a while to get there but Windows XP is a great OS and only a fruitcake would complain about anything in it.  If there were something better, people would be using it.  The Mac OS may arguably be better but the Mac hardware and price tag sure aren't!  And now Microsoft will soon release a service pack to Windows XP that will let you easily install and uninstall all of Microsoft's bundled software.  

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-922147.html

It is beyond me why anyone would want to do this, since IE kicks Netscape's ass, and that open-source abomination Mozilla that is buggy as hell and takes 30 seconds to load.  However, not everyone wants MSN messenger or WMP installed, I guess.  So no more whining from anyone about MS forcing people to use their products; they never have anyway and now they are even letting competitors put their stuff in Microsoft's own OS!  I'd like to see Apple even let you buy a Mac that doesn't come with their OS or god forbid buy one from a 3rd party source.

[ May 24, 2002: Message edited by: Windows XP User #5225982375 ]
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Mozilla kicks IE ass on Linux, and on windows. It doesnt take thiry seconds to load in windows if you use the quickstart, and it takes <1 second to load on Linux.

The new service pack just hides the software, which means that it is wasting valuable space on your system storing programs that you cant use.

Linux comes with thousands (literally) of third party apps that you can install while installing. Mac lets you install third party apps and doesnt jam their products down your throat (as psyjax alright mentioned).

psyjax:

quote:Originally posted by Zombie9920:
I made a topic pointing out how poorly Quicktime performs in Windows. The example in that topic is on a low quality mpeg. You should see how high the mem usage and CPU usage shoots up to in Quicktime with a high quality video(it exceeds 90%) while WMP still holds it's own at under 15%.

http://forum.fuckmicrosoft.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=000036
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Some OS's can manage the CPU and RAM usage efficiently so that media files wont even crawl on an old machine. I can load up 3 or 4 .mpg's on my old iMac with minnimal speed hit.

Zombie9920:
Oh boohoo, Microsoft bundles software with thier OS. It is thier OS so I think they should have the right to bundle whatever they want with it. It isn't like the bundled MS software cripples third party apps, so why piss and moan about it?
Besides..if you know what you are doing you can easily remove any bundled compenent from Windows(Like IE, Windows Messenger, WMP, etc.) without the need of any third party removers. Doesn't Apple bundle Finder with thier OS? Don't they bundle iTunes too?

http://www.ticz.com/homes/users/waltw/removec.jpg

[ May 24, 2002: Message edited by: Zombie9920 ]

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