they are just locking themselves out though, if all the other major OSs play nice with each other, admins will get the message to stay away from windows quite quickly, and it should have a trickle down or trickle up effect from there.
re: SingleMalt's offensive language, he was no more offensive than me, and he was only getting into the spirit of things, and anyway, this
isfuckmicrosoft.com, so language liberally used should be tolerated
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Macs are no 1 in Japan? that's good news! do you mean that more people actually run MacOS than do windows there?
also, does anybody have any other figures like this (eg what are the figures for unix/macOS/windows in China? and so on)
Also, re your interface problem (menus all over the place and so on), i agree with you in everything because windows is trying to be an intuitive multimedia platform, like MacOS but is failing partially for that reason. On the other hand, i don't think you can really call it a problem that linux has no cohesive structure about this scenario.
Linux doesn't seem (sadly) to have this unified interface issue high on its agenda, so this issue is not so critical for its users. The users of XP are probably more affected by having no common interface characteristics than the users of Linux.
Finally, programmers can get around these constraints on the mac, given even an inch of rope, example, here on my mac, mozilla has "tabs" (the windows within windows, but without the ability to resize them) and opera starts up each new instance in a totally separate window as per usual. I actually prefer the mozilla way, but must i put up with multiple windows in Opera (which i prefer in most other ways to mozilla) just so it can maintain the cohesive look and feel of MacOS? If i were using windows (and i'm not defending the "OS" here!), Opera would also have this "windows within windows " structure (although i think you can change it to multiple instances in the newest version).
Customisability, you see, and that's why linux will always have this "problem"
just my thoughts.....
[ May 30, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]