ibook trouble with jag

[cloudstrife]

Jaguar hangs at the installation program, endlessly reading the cd.  i left it for 7 hours and came back, it was still reading the cd.  It brings up the installation program but hangs at "reading packages."


It's a 466 mhz clamshell ibook with a measly 64 megs of ram.   I know i need to add more ram but i'm on a tight budget at the moment.  is there anything i can do to get jag installed?

[psyjax]

Two things, that iBook will never run Jag efficiently. Mainly that old ATI iT or whatever is way to slow for the graphics, and the VRAM can't be uped past 16MB, this prevents you from using any of Quark Extreems capabilities. The second thing is, well, you need more than 64MB of ram... minimum 128MB of RAM to even install Jaguare.

Sad but true, OSX is a resource hog. I admit it. For older machines like that, I deffiently recomend good ol' classic.

Ironicaly on my TiBook 400Mhz I run Jag flawlessly. It has 387MB RAM, an old ATI card too. But since OSX is G4 optamized the performance is amazing.

[xyle_one]

i was running jag fine on a 300mhz tangerine iBook. it wasnt the fastest thing in the world, but it ran. there was about 198 megs of ram. It wasn't unbearable either. So i think its your cdDrive. its fucked. or i was just very lucky. Psyjax is right though, classic is the best option for the iBook.

[psyjax]

I vote that RAM is the problem. OSX will not install ona  system with less than 128MB of ram. (well, there are hacks, but your systemw ill be bearly usable).

[xyle_one]

i read your post wrong psyjax. i saw 256 megs ram for minimum install some reason  

[cloudstrife]

part II:


os X.1 installed fine (wtf?!?) but jag still won't.  hmm

[hm_murdock]

Graphics ain't that bad. Rage IIc I think is what's in there. And it's not the VRAM that enables QE, it's the chipset. No RAGE will ever run QE because of a bug in the damn thing. RAGE only supports power-of-two sized textures, meaning objects on screen would have to be certain sizes, and couldn't scale smoothly.

I ran X.2 on a Lonbard 400, which isn't that much better. Same lousy video. It did just fine. Give the thing enough RAM and you're okay. run thousands of colors, and don't expect anything beyond suckass when playing QT movies. Everyday onscreen graphics, though? not a problem. Contrary  to popular belief (and Apple marketing), G3s don't suck, and can in fact handle Quartz fairly well

The only issue I'd have with OS X on the clamshell iBooks is the screen. it's only 800x600, which will be kinda cramped.

[ May 26, 2003: Message edited by: Jimmy James: Computer Commando ]