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Why my next computer won't be a Mac
psyjax:
quote:Originally posted by Billy Gates:
1) misinformed about speed (PIV's are faster at most tasks, G4's only pull ahead in some stuff in photoshop, and other advanced programs)
2) The Mac OS actually works, I think a lot of people just don't want to deal with windows. They probably figure, "go a little slower at everything and never have to stop and fix everthing"
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your right on one count Billy. But I'm not missinformed about speed. I have seen Mac g4 800's and 1gig PC's running side by side. I don't care how much power you got in that thing, the sheer amount of crap in Windows will slow the sucker down to a crawl, the fact that there is an avarage 3 click to 1 click ratio between operations in windows and MacOS actually adds up.
Second of all, to compare to the dual 1gig mac's you are going to need a pretty hevly triked out PC, because tho you might be able to swing a faster PC it's clock speed is going to have to be 1.3 times faster than the Mac.
Third of all, WTF do you NEED dual 1600Mhz for?????? I mean does any normal application in the universe need that kind of power!!!!!!
It reminds me of those stupid kids who buy all these expensive hotrod parts for a 1983 Honda civic. It may be fast and powerful, but it ain't no Porch. Same thing with the Mac in my opinion.
Finaly, running Photoshop, and other graphics apps well, is not a small thing. The entire publishing industry is founded on this.
Mac's are damn good machines and well worth every penny. Speed is just a number and not an acurate messure of performance. I see kids bragging all the time how Quake 3 pulls 3billion FPS on their new AMD blah blah blah.. what's the point if the human eye is only capable of processing 60FPS?
Anyway, all I am saying is that Mac people are not missinformed their just realistic. Generaly with everything added in to the Mac experiance the machines are WAY faster than comparable PC's.
Finaly the PIV is shit, say PIII and I would have belived you. PIV is a half assed chip pushed out the door and sold on clockspeed alone tho it processed less data and had more botleknecks.
psyjax:
quote:Originally posted by Garden GNOME:
This is unfortunate. I'm quite sure the dual 800Mhz / 1Ghz Power Macs are horribly fast, but I'm not Mr. Moneybags. The very most I could afford is a 933Mhz Power Mac. It would cost me almost 2000 dollars, and that is without the SuperDrive, modem and only 256 MB RAM. On the other hand I could build the most maxed out dual processor 1.5 gig RAM Super PC ever with that money. How fast is a 933Mhz G4 processor in comparison to a similarly priced Athlon system? Anyone have any references?
[ March 27, 2002: Message edited by: Garden GNOME ]
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I got some tips for you if you want to buy that mac cheeply. First if you are a student Apple will take off 25% and they often have special deals with schools. Second don't buy the RAM from Apple, buy it from outpost. 3rd party RAM is dirt cheep. I filld up my G4 with over a gig of ram for about 60 dollars. Secon'd skimp on the monitor or just hook up a PC monitor to the machine. I baught a 17" mitsubishi monitor for 200 bucks. That saved me some money from the LCD monitors (tho if I had the cash id still snag one :D ).
Also, check out the MacMall and MacWarehouse Catalogue, as well as Outpost. Sometimes they have excelent deals on Mac's that you won't get from Apple.
Finaly, a 933 Mac, is not a joke. You will be surprised with the way that machine handles, I guarantee it. No one ever belives me untill they use one for a while, then their like, WOW, this rocks.
http://www.barefeats.com/pentium4.html
Grrr... I have been trying to find more online speed test's but most of them are on the older G4's this is one of the few and as you can see, don't really test the CPU's on imprtant Apps (save photoshop).
hmm... here is an interesting article...
http://www.lowendmac.com/musings/g4vp3.shtml
this one is on the chip architecture between a P4 and G4
http://arstechnica.com/cpu/01q4/p4andg4e2/p4andg4e2-1.html
finaly here is Apple, but then again, they are kind of biased...
http://www.apple.com/powermac/specs.html
Oh well, I'll post more if I locate some better stuff.
Have fun!
[ March 27, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]
gnomez:
Wow it looks like the AMD processors kick the PIV's ass. What an overpriced piece of crap!
psyjax:
quote:Originally posted by Garden GNOME:
Wow it looks like the AMD processors kick the PIV's ass. What an overpriced piece of crap!
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ya no kidding, P4 blows
Ironicaly, after the speed tests in the first article I am glad I have a g4 dual 800.
[ March 27, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]
gnomez:
One thing I like about PCs is that there is no hardware monopoly there (just a software monopoly) There are many different companies who make motherboards (ASUS, Vis, MSI, Soyo) CPUs (AMD and Intel) etc. that are in healthy competition with each other. Imagine if the only x86 based processor you could buy was an Intel one.
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