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Calum:
quote:zombie again:
The point is, Apple bundles stuff with thier OS...but Maccies think it is so wrong for Microsoft to bundle stuff with thier OS. Just like MacOS has Quicktime bundled with it, but you hear Maccies crying that WMP is bundled with Windows. That is just straight up hypocritical.
I'll call it quits when you people can admit that Apple is no better than MS as a business.
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Well, that is true, except for the fact that Apple are not a monopoly. Politically they are not much better though, in many respects but not all.
Re: bundled software, you miss the point, as many people admittedly do.
It's not the bundled software that pisses people off, it's the mandatory integration into the OS (why can't i uninstall WMP and IExplore from the "Add/Remove Programs" dialog?), the fact that the programs included are huge, and cannot do their job properly, often crashing the entire system (which should not be possible in any decent OS), making the user download alternative programs to do the same job (i have DivX Player, Winamp (from before it was AOL), Trillian and Opera, having got rid of WMP, MSNMSG and IExplore)and most of all the fact that those programs routinely try to mysteriously dial internet connections and write logfiles that are protected and unreadable.
Apple are not saints, which is why i think mac fans often seem to be foaming at the mouth a bit, but M$ are certainly much. much worse.
Macman:
I think we (mostly you) got him, Calum. We've written so much stuff against him that it would be literally impossible to deny all of it. Even if he won't admit it to himself, he lost.
Hey, I got to burn someone!
ravuya:
Guys, calm down. Let's recap this:
Apple: Controls hardware and software interests.
Microsoft: Controls software interests, manipulates Intel and AMD to help control hardware by releasing newer editions of Windows that require more CPU to run properly.
So, basically, both companies are just trying to maximize profits. Apple is the underdog here, but I believe they make the better product, so I support Apple.
So, let's keep this discussion going, it seemed semi-intelligent at the start... this isn't Usenet, we don't have to degenerate into mindless name-calling, all right?
Calum:
actually, this is the only zombie84151451314531532 initiated argument i have seen so far that hasn't degenerated into name calling. I think i said all i wanted to say, i truly reckon that while Apple may be shameless promotionists and they may want to keep visious control over their own interests that they do not traffic in dirty tricks anymore, unlike Microsoft who make it part of their daily routine.
psyjax:
quote:Originally posted by Calum:
actually, this is the only zombie84151451314531532 initiated argument i have seen so far that hasn't degenerated into name calling. I think i said all i wanted to say, i truly reckon that while Apple may be shameless promotionists and they may want to keep visious control over their own interests that they do not traffic in dirty tricks anymore, unlike Microsoft who make it part of their daily routine.
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I don't think Apple are shameless promotionisists. They sell their computers on the ideals of it's founders. The think diffrent adds sold More Mac's than any G4 or G3 ad.
Besides M$ has the most misleading advertising around.
Zombie74574684:
And what the hell do you mean Darwin is not sanctioned by Apple? They made the thing. Look at the licence for god sake.
AppleWorks is made for the PC, as well as a bunch of their other software. But who's counting?
Unlike IE or WindowsExplorer the Finder is actually the core of the old MacOS. It IS the old MacOS. If you read anything in the Inside the Machintosh documentation then you will understand how the system is organized. The finder almost acts as a kernel. When windows explorer and IE are just tack ons made to seem like they are key OS components.
Man, my T1 was down last night and this morning. i wish I could have had some of this action
Hey Macman! Nice site, lookie I'm a Moderator :D .
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