Apple sucks DRM dick and pissis local Mac lover off!

[psyjax]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/30458.html

Grrrrrrrr.... I agree... especially the last line.

I don't like the music store, I don't like it one bit. .acc files are specific to one computer (im sure a crack will apear) but  still.

The other fetures are nice, but a mixed blessing. For instance the streaming from other peoples playlist thrugh Randevous is nice, but the inability to use the feture to actually copy the music to your list is disabled. In the help file it suggests burning a CD or transfering via iPod.

But it's an obvious ploy to limit intercomputer P2P sharing. It's not like I can't log into folks servers around here and take what I wan't, but still this feature disturbes me.

No no no no no no... I don't like this one bit. Im switching to Linux if shit like this keeps up. I used to like it when Apple were rebels saying "Rip. Mix. Burn." Not saying pay pay pay.

Fuck this shit.

Well, on the bright side, it's not like their FORCING you to pay, or preventing you from sharing entirely. I mean it's not like there aren't other means available. I just don't like this slant...... yet, I have faith still... I hope Apple won't stray too far from the path.

[ April 29, 2003: Message edited by: psyjax: plain 'ol psyjax ]

[rtgwbmsr]

quote:Originally posted by psyjax: plain 'ol psyjax:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/30458.html

Grrrrrrrr.... I agree... especially the last line.

I don't like the music store, I don't like it one bit. .acc files are specific to one computer (im sure a crack will apear) but  still.

The other fetures are nice, but a mixed blessing. For instance the streaming from other peoples playlist thrugh Randevous is nice, but the inability to use the feture to actually copy the music to your list is disabled. In the help file it suggests burning a CD or transfering via iPod.

But it's an obvious ploy to limit intercomputer P2P sharing. It's not like I can't log into folks servers around here and take what I wan't, but still this feature disturbes me.

No no no no no no... I don't like this one bit. Im switching to Linux if shit like this keeps up. I used to like it when Apple were rebels saying "Rip. Mix. Burn." Not saying pay pay pay.

Fuck this shit.

Well, on the bright side, it's not like their FORCING you to pay, or preventing you from sharing entirely. I mean it's not like there aren't other means available. I just don't like this slant...... yet, I have faith still... I hope Apple won't stray too far from the path.

[ April 29, 2003: Message edited by: psyjax: plain 'ol psyjax ]

I bought a few songs...

You can add to playlists and burn the songs - an unlimited amount of times.
The songs are on the computer, and in your library.
The .aac files are specific to *3* computers. You can go re-download them on 2 other computers are no extra cost.

I don't really have a problem with anything other than the 3 computer limit. It's a reasonable # but still...it's there.

So it's Pay. Mix. Burn. or Rip. Mix. Burn. Your option.

If they required you to rip files into DRM aac files, that would piss me off a whole lot. As long as I am free to rip into non-protected files, and burn as much as I want, I'm happy.

[ April 29, 2003: Message edited by: The Muffin Man ]

[slave]

Yeah, it does sound like something MS would do. (Think DRM'ed music service "msnMedia" or some such, with PC-specific wma files only)  It also suxxors to see that if your computer dies and you lose your music, it's tough shit for you!

H A N D C U F F W A R E (let's hope we see no more of this from Apple, god forbid they start using DRM chipsets or something)

[Pantso]

quote:Originally posted by psyjax: plain 'ol psyjax:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/30458.html

Grrrrrrrr.... I agree... especially the last line.

I don't like the music store, I don't like it one bit. .acc files are specific to one computer (im sure a crack will apear) but  still.

The other fetures are nice, but a mixed blessing. For instance the streaming from other peoples playlist thrugh Randevous is nice, but the inability to use the feture to actually copy the music to your list is disabled. In the help file it suggests burning a CD or transfering via iPod.

But it's an obvious ploy to limit intercomputer P2P sharing. It's not like I can't log into folks servers around here and take what I wan't, but still this feature disturbes me.

No no no no no no... I don't like this one bit. Im switching to Linux if shit like this keeps up. I used to like it when Apple were rebels saying "Rip. Mix. Burn." Not saying pay pay pay.

Fuck this shit.

Well, on the bright side, it's not like their FORCING you to pay, or preventing you from sharing entirely. I mean it's not like there aren't other means available. I just don't like this slant...... yet, I have faith still... I hope Apple won't stray too far from the path.

[ April 29, 2003: Message edited by: psyjax: plain 'ol psyjax ]

I can't judge the Music Store feature since it's not available to any country other than the US. How's that for Apple's support?

I can say one thing with absolute certainty though. I hate the fact that Apple has released a proprietary format like *.aac. If this tactic continues then I'll propably load Linux on my iBook as well.

[rtgwbmsr]

quote:Originally posted by Linux User #5225982375:
It also suxxors to see that if your computer dies and you lose your music, it's tough shit for you!

Not quite...if your computer dies, then you log on with your Apple ID, and in iTunes go to Advanced > "Search for purchased music" and it will re-download all of the songs for you. You do the same if you get disconnected during a download, etc.

[ April 29, 2003: Message edited by: The Muffin Man ]

[psyjax]

Well, now that I have calmed down a bit...

I don't think it's compleat fuckware... namely cuz I now know how to get around the 3 computer limitthing and not have the tough shit thingy  

Basically, once you got your music, burn it to CD, then rip that same CD back to MP3, oh happy day!

[rtgwbmsr]

quote:Originally posted by psyjax: plain 'ol psyjax:
Well, now that I have calmed down a bit...

I don't think it's compleat fuckware... namely cuz I now know how to get around the 3 computer limitthing and not have the tough shit thingy    

Basically, once you got your music, burn it to CD, then rip that same CD back to MP3, oh happy day!

So: Pay. Mix. Burn. then Rip. Mix. Burn...

[flap]

quote:Originally posted by psyjax: plain 'ol psyjax:
Well, now that I have calmed down a bit...

I don't think it's compleat fuckware... namely cuz I now know how to get around the 3 computer limitthing and not have the tough shit thingy      

Basically, once you got your music, burn it to CD, then rip that same CD back to MP3, oh happy day!

Well you don't really need to do that. If you can play an audio file they can't stop you from recording it. You just play the file and use something to record your machine's audio output. An even better solution is to not use Apple's shitty service.

[ April 29, 2003: Message edited by: flap ]

[billy_gates]

quote:Originally posted by psyjax: plain 'ol psyjax:
Well, now that I have calmed down a bit...

I don't think it's compleat fuckware... namely cuz I now know how to get around the 3 computer limitthing and not have the tough shit thingy    

Basically, once you got your music, burn it to CD, then rip that same CD back to MP3, oh happy day!

I actually read somewhere, I think there is a link in apple's hot news, that if you burn it then rerip it into MP3 it sounds like shit, sort of like macrovision for dvd's.

Whatever, I'm not pissed, as long as I can burn it to a cd, I'm happy.  But I like having a real cd, with cd quality, non compressed music.  I will most likely end up finding music on there then finding it in a store or on an online music store.  We shall see.  I will probably buy one album to help Apple's statistics.

[Pissed_Macman]

Why not just have us download mp3s? Isn't the Music Store supposed to work with the iPod anyway?

[Yuffie]

Apple isnt going the wrong direction, they are just trying to compete with other Music Store Services.
Like someone pointed out, atleast they didnt void using mp3s and shit like Microsofts Palladium thing.

I actually like the service. Even tho im never going to buy a single AAC in my life =)

[rtgwbmsr]

quote:Originally posted by Macman: HAS 1000 POSTS:
Why not just have us download mp3s? Isn't the Music Store supposed to work with the iPod anyway?

The iPod 1.3 update for the older iPods (which the newer iPods already have) give them AAC support.

[rtgwbmsr]

WHOA! I bought 7 songs and got charged for 1! But they charged me $1 not $.99

How odd...

Download like crazy people!

[slave]

quote:Originally posted by The Muffin Man:


Not quite...if your computer dies, then you log on with your Apple ID, and in iTunes go to Advanced > "Search for purchased music" and it will re-download all of the songs for you. You do the same if you get disconnected during a download, etc.

[ April 29, 2003: Message edited by: The Muffin Man ]

What's this then?

 

quote:

"If your hard disk becomes damaged or you lose any of the music you've purchased, you'll have to reimport all your songs and buy any purchased music again to rebuild your library."

  :confused:

[rtgwbmsr]

quote:Originally posted by Linux User #5225982375:


    :confused:  

EDIT:
That's really odd.

I guess I'll have to find a spare Mac, download a song, and trash the hard drive.

I've already had a download get cut off. The search for purchased music thing fixed it.

[ April 29, 2003: Message edited by: The Muffin Man ]