Apple is Proprietary BOO HOO!!!

[Pissed_Macman]

I'm really getting sick of people holding this over our heads. What the hell do you want, for Apple to give out its source codes and make all its stuff free overnight? That would be disastrous!! Unlike Microsoft (who thinks that tightening its grip will defend it when doing this is actually hurting them more), Apple is adapting to the OSS movement. It's happening, you just have to be patient. So how about we focus on ragging on Microsoft for not even knowing how to cope with OSS okay?

[xyle_one]

i agree. i think apple is moving in the right direction.

[bossesjoe]

i second (or really third) that

[Pantso]

I'm not going to enter this discussion once more, because I believe that whatever there was to say has been said and written.  

[psyjax]

quote:Originally posted by Panos:
I'm not going to enter this discussion once more, because I believe that whatever there was to say has been said and written.      

 
I second Panos on this.

As the indians used to say:

"You fish on this side, I fish on that side, and nobody fishes in the middle."

[slave]

I hold nothing against anyone who uses OS X.  I think it's (technically) a great OS, but I will never use it myself until the whole thing is put under the GPL/similar license.  Why are we bringing this up again?

[billy_gates]

I agree.  Lets remember the name of this site... fuckmicrosoft not fuckapple.  And yes, I think Apple is moving in the right direction.  Although I do not consider myself to be a big supporter of "Free Software"

[solo]

I strongly support Open Source *of* *course*. However, I do not have a problem with proprietary code. There are business reasons for these things people! I respect Apple because they have great software and a great OS. I think they would deserve my money if I had money to give them. They are embracing the open source movement, but it is not core to their business yet. They need to do it right, or not at all, or they could lose a lot of money and their competitive edge. We should be happy that they are not stooping to business practices ala Microsoft.

I love OSX, absolutely love it. I've used it at school and it's absolutely beautiful, very stable, and I love the Darwin core. However, I don't have the money to switch to PPC, because when I do switch, it will be with the fastest Mac on the market. In normal circumstances I would *not* switch, because x86 is cheaper. Instead I would run both, but I am terribly afraid of how Microsoft can take advantage of Intel's venture into secure computing.

Of course I would dual boot the Mac with Linux   .

[Laukev7]

I agree with you, solo. I am also a strong supporter of Apple (even though I do not own a Mac yet), as well as many other companies who make good products, but can't afford to give their secrets away. I find it sad that many free software supporters brand such companies as "evil" just because they don't adopt their views. As Eric Raymond says, open source should only be used when it is to the advantage of the business.

[cocoamix]

Apple is about the best balance you're ever gonna get between proprietary and open source. One one end, you have M$, on the other, you have Linux and GNU. It's has aspects that will please people on both sides, but will probably annoy some as well.

[bossesjoe]

I think we can look at this like a political spectrum. Linux on one side, Windows on the other. Apple has always been closer to the Linux side and now with OSX they are going even farther in that direction.

[eradicator]

open or closed, they both have problems. so a comapny should pick one and then just live on with their choice.

open: the code can be messed with
closed: the code can't be messed with

either way, it is flawed. beos was closed, look how limited it was. linux is open, look how much of a mess it can be.

i just speak the truth. you can't argue with the truth.

[Pissed_Macman]

I vote we all destroy our computers and become omish!

[Fett101]

Sounds good to me. We can spend days churning butter, raising the roof of a barn, and talk about what an ass Gertrude has.

[Calum]

this thread is pretty pointless. i kind of agree with macman what he said in the first post, and nobody has really disagreed with him, also who does he think he's responding to? he says he's sick and tired but why? i mean he started this thread in the first place!

bizarre.