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Paladin9

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« on: 14 September 2004, 11:00 »
I just picked up a pc compatible power mac 7200/120.  It has a 120 MHz power pc 601 and a BIG pci pc card in it with a 100 MHz pentium.  I have to wipe the hard drive becuase the software was all fucked up and did not boot.  Now i got OS 9.1 on it just fine.  Does anyone know how to get windows on it?  Does windows use its own partition or does it somehow share the same partition???  HELP
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« Reply #1 on: 14 September 2004, 11:37 »
Pretty sure Windows is going to need its own partition.  Windows doesn't like to share.  Plus, the filesystems for Windows and Macintosh are incompatible.

A better question would be "which one do you install first?"  Install OS9 and build the Windows partition, and then install Windows?  Or install Windows and build the OS9 partition?  It all depends on which OS is better able to deal with being installed on a non-primary partition.  Linux distros come with partition managers, but I don't think Windows or OS9 do.

An even better question: how do you double boot?  Do you use something like grub?

Very interesting project, I hope you have stories for us before you accidentally fry everything.
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« Reply #2 on: 14 September 2004, 20:00 »
I saw another one of these things working.  When you boot it, it starts windows too so by the time the mac is done booting, you can switch over to windows by pressing command-enter or somehting.  

Since the system was designed by apple to also run windows, i imagine that it is probably easy to get windows on there.  It is possible that it came with a special version of the mac os that includes windows 95 or something.  

Also keep in mind that macs CAN read DOS partitions, so maybe the who hdd was formated as FAT?
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« Reply #3 on: 14 September 2004, 23:28 »
Maybe if you can find somewhere on the card the company that made it, you can go to the website and find old manuals to help.

Personally, I say you get slackware and see if it will run....
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« Reply #4 on: 15 September 2004, 03:16 »
On a related note...
you can run Windows on a Mac (without virtual pc)   :eek:    :eek:    :eek:
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« Reply #5 on: 15 September 2004, 04:57 »
I do not know how to boot the mac with any pc cd or floppy.  So I would not know how to put windows or and x86 linux on it.  (of course I could put a PPC linux on it, but you can do that on any PPC mac)
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« Reply #6 on: 15 September 2004, 05:07 »
Maybe this will help you.
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« Reply #7 on: 15 September 2004, 05:39 »
quote:
Originally posted by bedouin:
Maybe this will help you.


WHOA!

Nice!  Just what I fucking needed!  I owe you lunch.
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« Reply #8 on: 15 September 2004, 06:43 »
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Originally posted by Paladin:
I do not know how to boot the mac with any pc cd or floppy.  So I would not know how to put windows or and x86 linux on it.  (of course I could put a PPC linux on it, but you can do that on any PPC mac)


Well sure you can put PPC Linux on it, but just think of how cool it would be using Slackware!
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« Reply #9 on: 15 September 2004, 21:11 »
quote:
Originally posted by M51DPS:
Well sure you can put PPC Linux on it, but just think of how cool it would be using Slackware!


In that FAQ, it says that you acutally can not run Linux on the PC card  :(
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« Reply #10 on: 16 September 2004, 05:55 »
Sounds like a very neat system.  Are you sure that the card has a Pentium/100 or is it instead a 5x86/100?   The 5x86/100 runs more like a pentium/66  (which isn't too bad if you run a light OS).  

Make sure you put Windows 95 and not 98 on there, either way.
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« Reply #11 on: 16 September 2004, 08:17 »
98 runs fine on a P66. Windows Me runs fine on that, too.

I don't know who bullshitted people into thinking that Windows Me was anything more than Windows 95 with IE5 installed.
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« Reply #12 on: 16 September 2004, 08:37 »
I cant get the fucker to work right.  The only pre-osx full mac install disks that i have are OS 7.1.2 and 9.1.  This macs minimum os requirement in OS 7.5.4   Shit.  I tried putting the HD in an older power mac, installing and upgrading to 7.5.5, then putting it back... and i ran into all kinks of hiccups.  Supposedly the container files the you make for windows to use dont work right when you make them under OS9 and there are also some write error problems with OS9.  Fuck.  So I gave up on the PC card and took it out.  Now I tried putting OS9 on it to use it as a regular mac but it keeps freezing up when installing the OS.  Son of a mother fuck.  I figured it may be bad ram.  I did some troubleshooting by taking out one stick of ram at a time and running the installer to see if one of the ram sticks was bad.  Nope.  Not unless they all happend to be bad.  It could be the CD drive.  I know it is not the CD.  When 7.5.5 was on there, the cd drive would not mount cds for some reason.  I thought their may be something wrong with the cdrom extention so i put in a different one and that did not do dick.  The problem could also be with the motherboard, which in that case i am really fucked. Oh well, if the pile of these macs is still around, i may pick up several more to add to my collection.  At lest a few of the others from the lab must work.  But i think the garbage company took them away last week   :(   I will see when i go to work tomorrow and pick up as many as i can if they are still there.  Anybody want one?
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« Reply #13 on: 16 September 2004, 21:32 »
system 7.5.3

and there is a free upgrade to 7.5.5 floating around.
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« Reply #14 on: 16 September 2004, 19:53 »
quote:
Originally posted by sauron.game-host.org:
system 7.5.3

and there is a free upgrade to 7.5.5 floating around.


That is just an update, and i already have it plus the 7.5.5 update.  I need a full install disk of 7.5.5
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