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Safari: What's the big deal??!!
flap:
quote:Originally posted by Calum: crusader for peace & freedom:
is it fully open source and Free?
if so then i will concede that something is being given back.
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It's free because it's GPL'd so they're legally obliged to make it free, not because they're "a good open source citizen" as they claim. If they were a "good citizen" in the sense that they're implying (what is a good "open source" citizen anyway?) then they'd make their OS core - or better yet all of OSX - properly free.
I still don't see how people think Apple making their OS core open source benefits anyone besides Apple? They don't deserve to be "stood up for", at least not over this issue.
Pantso:
quote:Originally posted by flap:
It's free because it's GPL'd so they're legally obliged to make it free, not because they're "a good open source citizen" as they claim. If they were a "good citizen" in the sense that they're implying (what is a good "open source" citizen anyway?) then they'd make their OS core - or better yet all of OSX - properly free.
I still don't see how people think Apple making their OS core open source benefits anyone besides Apple? They don't deserve to be "stood up for", at least not over this issue.
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It's because of you and your "elitist" alikes that most people are looking down at free and open source software. Shame how some people are so shortsighted.
[ April 14, 2003: Message edited by: Panos ]
xyle_one:
yeah. i agree. drop the elitist attitudes. at least apple is attempting to move on. sorry that they do not move as fast as you would like. give them time.
[assholish sarcasm]
maybe they are just jealous that apple has actually built an easy to use system on top of a unix core, with the most amazing gui today.
[/assholish sarcasm]
;)
flap:
Open Source *should* be looked down on. That's my whole point. How is it 'elitist' to demand freedom? That's like saying that it's wrong to criticise a despotic government that introduces limited human rights to appease a few people; that to demand a fully democratic government would be elitist.
If you genuinely believe that Apple have open sourced their software in order to be of any benefit to the community then you have a very rose tinted view of the way business works. This wasn't a tentative first step on a journey to making all their software free/open; it's just a calculated PR move, and one that might get some of their bugs fixed for them.
I'd still like to know how Darwin being open source benefits anyone.
Pantso:
quote:Originally posted by flap:
Open Source *should* be looked down on. That's my whole point. How is it 'elitist' to demand freedom? That's like saying that it's wrong to criticise a despotic government that introduces limited human rights to appease a few people; that to demand a fully democratic government would be elitist.
If you genuinely believe that Apple have open sourced their software in order to be of any benefit to the community then you have a very rose tinted view of the way business works. This wasn't a tentative first step on a journey to making all their software free/open; it's just a calculated PR move, and one that might get some of their bugs fixed for them.
I'd still like to know how Darwin being open source benefits anyone.
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Perhaps you are being jealous that Apple has built the best OS out there today. I know one thing for sure though. That you're being a ridiculous elitist bastard. Sorry, but that's the honest truth. You can fuck off for all I care, since you're too much of a smartass to understand what we're saying. BTW, if I were Macman or another mod, I'd delete this thread since you asshole have steered completely off topic.
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