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Trying to install OS X on a Windows box.. having problems. x.x
flap:
quote:Originally posted by Linux User #5225982375:
I have a bias against SuSE because version 8.0 was buggy as hell and it contains a lot of proprietary or at least non-free stuff (flash, YaST, etc.) I don't even think it's legal to give your friends copies, but I could be wrong. I think you can download it but not in iso format. I'd suggest getting RedHat Linux 8.1 when it comes out and just installing a stock KDE if you don't like Redhat's build, or run GNOME 2.2 which is quite polished, if lacking in a few features.
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Actually you can redistribute it non-commercially, but not for profit. Which is basically Suse's way of ensuring that no-one will be able to create a new truly free distribution based on theirs, and certainly not a commercial one.
flap:
quote:Originally posted by Crunchy(Cracked)Butter:
Darwin is opensource and its released for the x86 platform so the OSX kernel at least runs on x86 hardware.
Safari is opensource as well or uses elements of opensource and gives any modifications back to KHTML.
The aqua element of OSX is Apples nad its their product so they don't have to make it opensource (its not like its part of the GPL) but what they have done so far DOESN'T make them as bad as MS. Apple have embraced amd contributed to it while MS ignores it and is activily trying to destroy it, big difference i think.
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Darwin is Open Source, but not free software. The misleading term "Open Source" allows companies like Apple, who have no more interest in freedom than Microsoft, to win acclaim from their users by releasing software under a restrictive, non-free licence. Simply because the source code is available and people mistakenly believe that that is going far enough.
AdmiralAK:
Actually Darwin is free, you can download it without cost from the website of apple (which I have and I had it on my PC a while back). Darwin is distributed under the AGPL in which terms are laid out. -- even though I am all FOR many nice OSes I sometimes do not get the negative attitude of some linux people that want everything free.
Personally for linux I prefer SuSE but currently I am using Mandrake. I downloaded Psyche from RedHat a while back but dispized it. If you are looking for a nice linux for your PC get SuSE or Mandrake. If you are looking for other OSes, Some of the BSDs are nice (have played around with OpenBSD and NetBSD). QNX is nice but not much software to go with it. BeOS rocks, you should give it a try if you are feeling courageous. there is software available for it online
flap:
No, Darwin is *free of charge* but it isn't free software. I'm sorry you think that it's a 'negtive attitude' to desire freedom, unless of course you're talking about Linux users wanting things to be free in terms of cost, in which case you've missed the point. Free software is about freedom, not price. Freedom that the APSL doesn't grant.
Pantso:
quote:Originally posted by flap:
Darwin is Open Source, but not free software. The misleading term "Open Source" allows companies like Apple, who have no more interest in freedom than Microsoft, to win acclaim from their users by releasing software under a restrictive, non-free licence. Simply because the source code is available and people mistakenly believe that that is going far enough.
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The fact alone that Apple decided to work with the Open Source community honors them as a computer manufacturer. The fact also that Apple in the case of Safari respect the terms of the GPL by releasing the improved code back to the community, something which is not the case even for Lindows (?!), is definitely a step forward!
Hence you cannot compare Apple with M$ in any way! Apple is a computer manufacturer and have the all the right in the world to make their own OS! Unlike M$, Apple don't force it down everyone's throat or bully hardware vendors around.
I would love to see OS X GPL'd by the way, but even if that doesn't happen, I'll be nonetheless satisfied that a major company such as Apple have "discovered" OSS!
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