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Programming vs Photoshopping
Pissed_Macman:
I suppose anything could be conceived as art, but the kind of art photoshop creates and the kind of art programming creates are two different kinds. Am I right?
xyle_one:
quote:Originally posted by Macman: HAS 1000 POSTS:
I suppose anything could be conceived as art, but the kind of art photoshop creates and the kind of art programming creates are two different kinds. Am I right?
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yep. anything can be called art. i forget the names, but there was this guy who shit in bottles on the 70's, and people started snatching them up recently calling it "brilliant" or something. there was also a guy who would arrange garbage in a room, and got a show at some big mueum. the janitor 'cleaned' that room at night thinking it was actuall garbage. needless to say, the museum heads were not pleased. so, yeah, anything can be art. and that drives me insane.
psyjax:
quote:Originally posted by ecsyle:
yep. anything can be called art. i forget the names, but there was this guy who shit in bottles on the 70's, and people started snatching them up recently calling it "brilliant" or something. there was also a guy who would arrange garbage in a room, and got a show at some big mueum. the janitor 'cleaned' that room at night thinking it was actuall garbage. needless to say, the museum heads were not pleased. so, yeah, anything can be art. and that drives me insane.
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Ya, alot of people don't like the post-modern stuff that's been around since the 60's. But to be fair, who's to say their wrong? Who's to say they don't actually belive in their work?
I mean Van Gogh was concidered a hack all his life, and no one liked his stuff till long after his death. And in Van Gogh's writtings we can see a man with deep convictions who actually had strong ties to the work he created. So who's to say Garbage guy is wrong? I mean, I don't like it, but if he belives in it, and is somehow expressing something he needs to express, then why isn't it art?
This is like one of those eternal questions with no real answers. Art is what you make of it, I really think that. One generation may concider one thing art while another not.
For example, the Romans thought that the Egyptian busts (the egyptians first developed them) were severed heads! They thought the sculptures grotesque. It wasent until later generations that the romans adopted the bust and recognized it's asthetic qualities.
Who's to say that in 10 years or so we all won't want some shit in a bottle, cuz darn if that just ain't prety :D ...
hehehe...
But back to topic:
I think programming is like a paintbrush, and painting techniques. It's what you create with it that is art.
xyle_one:
quote:Originally posted by psyjax: plain 'ol psyjax:
Ya, alot of people don't like the post-modern stuff that's been around since the 60's. But to be fair, who's to say their wrong? Who's to say they don't actually belive in their work?
I mean Van Gogh was concidered a hack all his life, and no one liked his stuff till long after his death. And in Van Gogh's writtings we can see a man with deep convictions who actually had strong ties to the work he created. So who's to say Garbage guy is wrong? I mean, I don't like it, but if he belives in it, and is somehow expressing something he needs to express, then why isn't it art?
This is like one of those eternal questions with no real answers. Art is what you make of it, I really think that. One generation may concider one thing art while another not.
For example, the Romans thought that the Egyptian busts (the egyptians first developed them) were severed heads! They thought the sculptures grotesque. It wasent until later generations that the romans adopted the bust and recognized it's asthetic qualities.
Who's to say that in 10 years or so we all won't want some shit in a bottle, cuz darn if that just ain't prety :D ...
hehehe...
But back to topic:
I think programming is like a paintbrush, and painting techniques. It's what you create with it that is art.
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yeah. it depends on your definition. my definition of art is different than yours. its a matter of opinion. i do not think shit in a bottle is art. but that doesnt mean its not. i understand that. i can see how programming is an artform, but i cant appreciate it as an art. maybe because i am not a programmer, and do not really understand. i don't know. fuck it. opinions cannot be disproved.
Pantso:
A work of art is a unique creation of a certain aesthetical, historical and cultural value. I don't agree that programming is an art form especially since no human emotions are involved in the process. This is just me though and I see that a lot of you disagree with that, as I happen to disagree with you.
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