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A civilised political discussion
skyman8081:
PLEASE READ THIS POST FIRST
In an attempt to see if it is possible to have a civilised political discussion, without resorting to flaming. Until now, this has largely been thought to be impossible, due to the anonymitity and lack of consequences of posting on the internet.
Therefore ANY AND ALL parties who wish to participate agree, by posting in this thread, that they will refrain from any and all form of Flaming, Ad hominem or any logical fallacy, Name-Calling of any kind, or swearing, whatsoever. At the first sign of those signs, this thread will be binned. This is why I am requesting the lounge mods to bin the thread at the first flame, derogatory term, improper logic, or swear word.
With that preface in place, I will seed this discussion, remember the rules.
While I do not agree with everything that President Bush has done while he was in office. I do feel that he best represents my interests as a citizen of the United States of America, and if I had the ability to vote in the 2004 election, I would vote for him.
xyle_one:
Good for you
It is still very up in the air for me as to who I am going to vote for.
[ September 01, 2004: Message edited by: xyle_one ]
flap:
How do you think he represents your interests?
[ September 01, 2004: Message edited by: flap ]
Paladin9:
Why I dont like Bush:
1. Going out of his way to ban gay marrige. Bush supporters often say that Bush is spreading "freedom" in the middle east. I guess he wants to do the opposite here at home. Banning gay marrige does not sound like a "free" thing to do to me.
2. Tax cuts. Just about everyone (except people who are loyal to Bush) say that Bush's tax cuts really are only for the upper class. Fuck that.
3. WAR. We are in a nastly little situation in Iraq right now. I am not sure that pulling out is a good idea, but Bush REALLY fucked up by starting the war in Iraq in the fist place.
4. Environment. Bush, like a lot of republicans, shit all over the environment. It is really not that hard to keep it clean people.
That is all for now
hm_murdock:
quote:Why I dont like Bush:
1. Going out of his way to ban gay marrige. Bush supporters often say that Bush is spreading "freedom" in the middle east. I guess he wants to do the opposite here at home. Banning gay marrige does not sound like a "free" thing to do to me.
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Freedom is only for the people that Bush and the Fundamentalist "Religous Right" smile upon.
quote:2. Tax cuts. Just about everyone (except people who are loyal to Bush) say that Bush's tax cuts really are only for the upper class. Fuck that.
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Not much more I can say... Bush is an upper-class whore. He does what they want and they give him money for it.
quote:3. WAR. We are in a nastly little situation in Iraq right now. I am not sure that pulling out is a good idea, but Bush REALLY fucked up by starting the war in Iraq in the fist place.
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Yes, but... I think it was good that Hussein was finally actually dealt with. I've seen all of Bush's evidence that Saddam Hussein had WMDs and supported terrorism, but I've also seen the evidence brought back by the UN saying that he had no big bombs, and hadn't supported the terrorists. Either way, I think that it's still good that he's now in custody. If for no other reason than his own personal safety. He was a tyrant and gassed his own people. That's not our business, but that's never stopped us from making it our business in the past.
quote:4. Environment. Bush, like a lot of republicans, shit all over the environment. It is really not that hard to keep it clean people.
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And beyond that, they're hostile toward people who believe in a clean environment. Remember, keeping the earth clean cuts into profit margins.
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