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flap:
quote:Originally posted by the stiller:
ive even heard that a plane didn't hit the pentagon. which made me think why wouldn't the US use a real plane if they wanted to make it look authentic.
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Unfortunately it didn't look "authentic", as eyewitnesses described seeing something that looked like a military plane or a missile. There was a number of cameras that recorded the crash and whose footage would presumably clear this up, but the FBI confiscated it all and it's never been released. Now what possible excuse could they have for doing that?
There is a lot of information about the 9/11 discrepancies, but here are just a couple of recent articles:
One about flight 93, which supposedly was brought down by a struggle between the passengers and hijackers, but which looks like it was shot down:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/WAL403A.html
And another about the supposed cell phones made from people in the planes, which seemingly couldn't possibly have been made:
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO408B.html
[ September 03, 2004: Message edited by: flap ]
shuiend:
Well since this has gotten off topic and now is more or less about 9/11 I would like to throw in some other linkis that I have found.
Physics behind pentgon attack
From the wilderness
I have not done to much research into this matter but I definately think that out there is a truth we need to know.
Stilly:
quote:Originally posted by xeen:
I am so lazy right now to type up a good explanantion that includes everything about 9/11 being a scam.
Here are a few videos you MUST watch:
http://pages.infinit.net/noc/pentagon.swf
http://www.question911.com/
Finally, here is another movie about the events of 9/11:
http://www.911inplanesite.com/
This is the 9/11 movie that is being sent to people all across the country, and is being discussed everywhere where 9/11 truth is being discussed.
It's not a free movie...but you can download it from any file sharing service for free.
ALso, go to amazon.com and check out the dozens of books about 9/11.
I'll try to write some stuff up later. ALso note that the 9/11 truth movement is growing very fast. Already lots of news and talk radio shows nationwide are discussing the truth, letters by citizens are being sent out to government and news agencies, etc.. There are also lots of 9/11 truth protests going on, but the mainstream media doesn't report on them. It may take another week, month, year, or possibly years before the truth behind 9/11 sparks the 2nd American Revolution but make no doubt about it - it will. My money's on sometime within the next year.
[ September 03, 2004: Message edited by: xeen ]
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2nd american revolution within a year? care to bet on that?
the biggest flaw i see with the arguments is that the people making these sites and movies more than likely dont know what they're talking about. they have pretty good guesses as to what you'd expect to happen but it just seems to much like a fake moonlanding. before you go into the whole "but stillmon you hot dude, phds have backed these claims" thing, a phd doesn't really mean you know everything about plane crashes. what about all the phds and dudes that support the story?
oh yeah, and about people saying they thought they saw a missile. those could easily be taken out of context. and afterall, planes look like missiles.
Xeen:
quote:Originally posted by the stiller:
2nd american revolution within a year? care to bet on that?
the biggest flaw i see with the arguments is that the people making these sites and movies more than likely dont know what they're talking about. they have pretty good guesses as to what you'd expect to happen but it just seems to much like a fake moonlanding. before you go into the whole "but stillmon you hot dude, phds have backed these claims" thing, a phd doesn't really mean you know everything about plane crashes. what about all the phds and dudes that support the story?
oh yeah, and about people saying they thought they saw a missile. those could easily be taken out of context. and afterall, planes look like missiles.
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First of all, what I meant was that the 9/11 truth movement in my opinion will go mainstream within the next 1-2 years definately. It's already exploded tremendously within the last 3 months!
As for everything else you said, I wouldn't mind having a debate over all the evidence, but only after you watch at least the free videos that I've listed. If you haven't seen it, there's really no point in talking to you about it.
And yes, of course nobody in the truth movement knows anything 100%. But the fact of the matter is that there is almost no evidence supporting the government story except for "the government said so". Face it, they've never proved anything and you gotta admit that inexplicable secrecy means they've got something to hide. On the other hand, the other side's got tons of evidence. If the government story is true, why don't they come out and prove it and make the truth people look like idiots?
Anyway, please watch the short flash video about the Pentagon, and then you MUST watch the free 4-part Painful Deceptions movie.
Stilly:
i watched the flash movie before my last post, ill make sure to get to the rest in a second.
the government really doesn't have to prove anything. nobody is stepping up to say the official story is right because its the official story and its truth is kind of implied.
but most of the evidence against the story seems like conjecture.
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