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http://www.internetwk.com/breakingNews/INW20021220S0007

Report: Bush Administration Plans Mandatory Government Internet Monitoring

By Mitch Wagner

The Bush administration plans to propose requiring Internet service providers to help build a centralized system for monitoring the Internet, the New York Times reported today.

The proposal is part of a final version of a report, "The National Strategy to Secure Cyberspace," to be released early next year, prepared by the President's Critical Infrastructure Protection Board, the Times reported.

The administration is attempting to foster public and private cooperation to regulate and defend national computer networks, not only from everyday hazards like viruses but form terrorist attack. Ultimately, the report is designed to provide an Internet strategy for the new Department of Homeland Security.

The proposal would be subject to Congressional and regulatory approval, the Times reported.

A centralized Internet monitoring facility and regulation of Internet service providers would be difficult because the Internet has thousands of ISPs, from garage operations to giant corporations like America Online, AT&T, Microsoft and WorldCom.

The system is deigned to provide early warning of Internet attacks. The current, fragmented nature of the Internet means that the Internet responds slowly to defend itself against attacks.

Observers were concerned that the system would cross the line between broad monitoring and privacy-violating wiretaps. One critic compared the system to Carnivore, the Internet spying system used by the FBI.

Brian Roehrkasse, spokesman for the Homeland Security office, said he could not comment on the reports except to deny one element: "There is no proposal in place to monitor individuals on the Internet," he said.
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No, but it becomes easyer to mark anyone as a "cyberspace" terrorist.

(cyberspace is a stupid word, possibly invented by AOL)

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The administration is attempting to foster public and private cooperation to regulate and defend national computer networks  


uhm they did that already.  Its called tcp/ip.

Ok did the Bush government not even notice all the billions the American people spent on DARPA NET and its followers.
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Forgive my n00bness Dbl, please elbaorate on TCP/IP, both in general and how this relates to network regulation and defense. I've heard the acrnoynm, and I know it has something to do with the internet.

Oh and even though I have never read it(I promise I will sometime), im sure I've read that Cyberspace was the virtual reality successor to the internet(not in those words), in a book my William Gibson called Neuromancer(made in 1985?). Perhaps that term became pop culture for out net?

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I hear from some people that TCP/IP sucks, and that UUCP should be the one to rule the internet...

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Bush loves this terrorist shit, label something terrorist and he get's the greenlight. It's McArthyism all over again.

If the government is afraid of virus attack they should stop running windoze  

And when the fuck has the whole internet been taken down? It's nearly impossible. I know, that they have taken down some big servers at times, but the whole net?! plz..

Not to mention that the fesibility of monitoring all internet activity is ridiculous.
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Originally posted by psyjax: plain 'ol psyjax:
And when the fuck has the whole internet been taken down? It's nearly impossible. I know, that they have taken down some big servers at times, but the whole net?! plz..

Well, that's because the internet itself is designed to stop this. Old networks could be taken down by shooting off 1 important node, internet will (theoretically) function as long as 2 nodes are still alive.

So I have no idea what the brainwhacked Bush administration thought up this time. Nor do I want to, honestly - it is bound to be something that occurred in a nightmare once.
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Isn't there some servers that are the backbone of the net, loctated in a top secret location in the US?
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Actually, I believe that there are about 9 main servers for the net backbone. They were attacked not too long ago, but only a couple were actually taken down for a small amount of time.

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What you are referring to are the top level DNS servers. They are responsible for telling your computer where to find the DNS server for a particular domain name (and there are millions of these types of DNS servers, I have several). Once your machine knows where the DNS server is for a particular domain name it can resolve host names to IP address for that domain.

The top level DNS servers are very critical for sure but there isn't much secret about them. Just type "dig" in Linux and it will list all of the top level domain DNS servers. There are currently 13 of them named from "a.root-servers.net" to "m.root-servers.net". Traceroute to them or look up their IP address on arin.net if you want to roughly know where they are located. For instance a.root-servers.net is at network solutions, b.root-servers.net is at the Information Sciences Institute, d.root-servers.net is at the University of Maryland, e.root-servers.net is at NASA, etc.

Type their address into:
http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl

Or for an easier way, here's an older list:
http://www.dns.net/dnsrd/tld.html

These servers are responsible for .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU, .INT, .MIL and .GOV top level domains.  There are other root servers for other top level domains.
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There is more then 1 backbone, the internet is just a big messy network that needs a cleanup. I have read on how the IP protocol works, some TCP basics, and yes TCP/IP is shit.

ipv6 is a big improvement.

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There is a reason they call it "The Web". Here are some network maps I just drew up (yeah right):

http://www.cybergeography.org/atlas/topology.html

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as for bush, HAH! i bet he said something like:

"I think our internet... should be safer... for those of us kids... who use it daily... as an escape from education and security."
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With all these new Wireless networks forming i smell a new internet forming, for geeks, geeks and geeks.

YAY!

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