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Refalm:

quote:X11: This forum is dead, and isnt coming back until immature retards fuck off
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That would be YOU too, wouldn't it, alcohol addict?

Pantso:

quote:Originally posted by Refalm:
Hey assholes! This forum isn't fucked up because of bad moderators, it's because of the members and how they communicate with the management.

I'm always online, and you can send me PM's ANYTIME you want. No-one warned me of X11's being a complete drunk, and it was fixed hours later.

Having problems with the MES Forum? Leave, but don't come here to bitch about how shitty this forum is "supposed" to be. Because it isn't a shithole at all. They only way this forum could possibly be a shithole is because you'll made it one.

So stop behaving immaturely yourself. This forum isn't Erudition, OpenOpen Forum or any other, and it never will be.
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Way to go Refalm! You are most certainly right! This place has nothing to do with OpenOpen and/or Erudition. Those who come here just to bitch about the MES forums are pathetic to say the least.

[ March 09, 2004: Message edited by: Panos ]

hm_murdock:

quote:Point? Some people need to overcome their bitterness from having been demoded *cough -> Jimmy James cough*, while others (X11) need to be demoded and finally disappear from these forums.
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It was bitterness that made me decide to make me force them into de-modding me.

remember, some time ago, I fucked my account up and didn't want to come back until the place really improved. well, it seemed to improve, so I did.

Refalm, it's not the management. You and the mods are doing an excellent job. Let me say that again... Microsuck as EXCELLENT management. My beef isn't with you. There aren't any mods who I have argument with (save for xeen, who wants to bin stuff based on subjective criteria ) and certainly not with you, Refalm.

It's with the members. If they could find something better to talk about than "Windows XP is the worst 'cos MS makes it", and "Linux is cool because it's OSS" or even "All closed source software sux because it's not OSS"... if the rhetoric could be gotten rid of, then there might be some interesting conversation.

[ March 09, 2004: Message edited by: jimmyjames.sytes.net ]

Laukev7:

quote: Laukev who want to bin stuff based on subjective criteria
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I do NOT bin stuff based on subjective criteria. I have taken extra care to only bin threads that violated forum rules and amended my moderating methods according to the new moderation guidelines, and even before that, I did NOT bin threads solely because I disagreed with them. The only recent exception I will concede is X11's poem thread, which was an action of retaliation to his editing of my posts on the other forum.

I will not comment on xeen's moderating methods, as I do not spend my time scrutinising other moderator's behaviours. But as an individual, I refuse to be put in the same basket as xeen, and will not accept responsability for xeen's or any other moderator's actions.

Stop judging me on policies I do not or no longer endorse, and get over it. I do not want to be smeared in front of newcomers with comments that do not concern me.

[ March 09, 2004: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]

hm_murdock:
Yes, you're doing much better than you had been. Note, I didn't say

"Laukev bins everything in sight"

Let's not get into that war again, because I'm not accusing you of that.

Did the winky smile not tip you off?

And I agree. I will not lump you in with xeen.

I do officially retract my statement. Laukev and xeen are nothing alike. xeen is a whiner, laukev isn't.

My apologies, seriously and sincerely!

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