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« on: 10 June 2002, 20:12 »
Here are some of my favorite excerpts from the Windows XP EULA.

    "* Internet-Based Services Components.  The SOFTWARE contains components that enable and facilitate the use of certain Internet-based services.  You acknowledge and agree that MS, Microsoft Corporation or their subsidiaries may automatically check the version of the SOFTWARE and/or its components that you are utilizing and may provide upgrades or supplements to the SOFTWARE that may be automatically downloaded to your COMPUTER. "

"    * Consent to Use of Data.  You agree that MS and Microsoft Corporation and their affiliates may collect and use technical information gathered in any manner as part of the product support services provided to you, if any, related to the SOFTWARE.  MS, Microsoft Corporation and their affiliates may use this information solely to improve their products or to provide customized services or technologies to you.  MS, Microsoft Corporation and their affiliates may disclose this information to others, but not in a form that personally identifies you."

"Mandatory Activation. THIS SOFTWARE CONTAINS TECHNOLOGICAL MEASURES THAT ARE DESIGNED TO PREVENT UNLICENSED OR ILLEGAL USE OF THE SOFTWARE. The license rights granted under this EULA  are limited to the first thirty (30) days after you first run the SOFTWARE unless you supply information required to activate your licensed copy in the manner described during the setup sequence (unless Manufacturer has activated for you).  You can activate the SOFTWARE through the use of the Internet or telephone; toll charges may apply.  You may also need to reactivate the SOFTWARE if you modify your HARDWARE or alter the SOFTWARE. "

It's a shame most Windows users do not read the EULA because it is such a great work of art.

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« Reply #1 on: 10 June 2002, 20:16 »
i take more joy in this one


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4:20.....forget the DMCA for a while!!!

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« Reply #2 on: 10 June 2002, 20:17 »

you know, folks, i didn't even read the first post, but it sure looked like it was going to be crock of steaming freshly laid horse shit.

interesting login name, btw, xp loser, you are a putrid bag of ambiguity.

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« Reply #3 on: 10 June 2002, 20:17 »
i know i should have linked it but i just could not resist the urge
x86: a hack on a hack of a hackway
alpha, hewlett packed it A-way
ppc: the fruity way
mips: the graphical way
sparc: the sunny way
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« Reply #4 on: 11 June 2002, 12:33 »
nobody in the world would read all that.

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« Reply #5 on: 11 June 2002, 12:44 »
i did
x86: a hack on a hack of a hackway
alpha, hewlett packed it A-way
ppc: the fruity way
mips: the graphical way
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« Reply #6 on: 11 June 2002, 13:08 »
people who don't read the licence agreement don't have the right to complain about systems problems. Just like people who don't get off their arse and vote once every four years are not entitled to the talk about politics (it should be illegal).
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« Reply #7 on: 13 June 2002, 06:02 »
they should be shot
just that you do not take an interest in politics does not mean that politics will not take an interest in you.  -pericles 430 b.c.

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« Reply #8 on: 13 June 2002, 06:08 »
quote:
Originally posted by Calum:
people who don't read the licence agreement don't have the right to complain about systems problems. Just like people who don't get off their arse and vote once every four years are not entitled to the talk about politics (it should be illegal).

if voting could change the system, it would be illegal.
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« Reply #9 on: 13 June 2002, 06:21 »
If the GPL could change the way software is developed, it would be made illegal.

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« Reply #10 on: 13 June 2002, 21:29 »
quote:
Originally posted by Windows XP User #5225982375:
If the GPL could change the way software is developed, it would be made illegal.


I know what you guys said about not anwsering him, but I only have one thing to say, "NOT REALLY".  There is no way you can make something illegal for just being out there, if it doesn't violate standard human ethics.  (notice I didn't say standard giant software company ethics)
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have found the trillionth easily preventable bug in a Microsoft OS.  You have just won the privlage of being frustrated with an over priced, unreliable OS that makes you conform to its standards.  How does that make you feel?


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« Reply #11 on: 13 June 2002, 13:25 »
i disagree, tons of stuff has been made illegal just for being there. The marijuana thing is a good example, also many of the English and Australian laws, for a start. In England, it is still actually illegal for a woman to wear makeup! the punishment is death by burning. Also, it's illegal to refuse to accept a bank of england one pound note as payment for something, the punishment is that you get thrown in jail for one month by the King's Highwaymen. Those highwaymen do not exist anymore, and the bank of england stopped making one pound notes in 1982...
There's a ton of other ones. There's one town on the England/Wales border, where it is legal to shoot a Welshman after dark, just because some bigshot did once ages ago, and they quickly pushed the law through so he wouldn't get prosecuted!

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« Reply #12 on: 13 June 2002, 13:32 »
true freedom only comes through disorder and chaos *cough anarchy cough* however this is not a viable solution, and i would agrea that there are too many bullshit laws, like the marijuna law, the dmca, various other ones you mentioned, i mean, look at the U.S gov. we kick the british out of this contry becuase of taxs, patrick henry would have a heart attack if he saw taxiation with representation. these bullshit laws have gone too far
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alpha, hewlett packed it A-way
ppc: the fruity way
mips: the graphical way
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« Reply #13 on: 13 June 2002, 17:16 »
Hey calum, I saw on the news here a while ago that dutch coffeeshop owners are organising courses for brittish aspiring coffeeshop owners, I believe there are some tests running in england where it is legal to smoke in a coffeeshop, the coffeeshop can't legally sell any marijuana though.

to get back to the original topic, the worst thing about any M$ EULA is that all changes to future versions also affect the license you accepted. So if M$ updates their EULA so that you will sell your soul to M$ when accepting the EULA you in fact will have already sold your soul, now imnsho this is a Bad Thing.
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« Reply #14 on: 13 June 2002, 17:25 »
one more thing :

 
quote:
Originally posted by Calum:
Just like people who don't get off their arse and vote once every four years are not entitled to the talk about politics (it should be illegal).


I soooo definatly not agree with this, last election here I very much wanted to vote, but there was not one single party (or person) who I would want to give my vote too, should I then vote for some party which I don't agree with just for the sake of voting?
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