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Microsoft is a good company, really
Stryker:
quote:Originally posted by Calum:
okay, the wankers win.
silly me for thinking we could have a sensible discussion.
now i remember why i don't visit here that often anymore.
dickheads...
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its fine, i'm here often enough... i'll take the time to delete any jackass posts so save the thread.
Zombie9920:
quote:Originally posted by Laukev7:
That's why Mac OS X is a better choice for users than either Lindows or non-root Linux distros, for the reasons I already mentioned.
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MacOSX would be the better choice if it ran on the hardware that everybody already owns(x86 boxes). IT isn't very feesible for everybody to have to throw out the computers that they already have to get a new, expensive machine because OEM's and software makers decided to sell and only make software for a different machine.
Since 97% of the computers used in the world are x86 the x86 architecture isn't going to die off anytime soon. With that said, a new, dominate OS would have to be able to run on the computers that almost everybody already owns and what almost everybody else buys.
Apple would probably see more profits in a year than they have ever seen in their lifetime if they would sell an x86 version of OSX.
[ September 28, 2003: Message edited by: Viper ]
insomnia:
quote:Originally posted by Viper:
MacOSX would be the better choice if it ran on the hardware that everybody already owns(x86 boxes). IT isn't very feesible for everybody to have to throw out the computers that they already have to get a new, expensive machine because OEM's and software makers decided to sell and only make software for a different machine.
Since 97% of the computers used in the world are x86 the x86 architecture isn't going to die off anytime soon. With that said, a new, dominate OS would have to be able to run on the computers that almost everybody already owns and what almost everybody else buys.
Apple would probably see more profits in a year than they have ever seen in their lifetime if they would sell an x86 version of OSX.
[ September 28, 2003: Message edited by: Viper ]
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You can run Linux on every architecture.
PS: This "root-linux" doesn't exist. Any system based on the linux kernel can be configured as a multi-user system.
Laukev7:
quote:Originally posted by Viper:
MacOSX would be the better choice if it ran on the hardware that everybody already owns(x86 boxes). IT isn't very feesible for everybody to have to throw out the computers that they already have to get a new, expensive machine because OEM's and software makers decided to sell and only make software for a different machine.
Since 97% of the computers used in the world are x86 the x86 architecture isn't going to die off anytime soon. With that said, a new, dominate OS would have to be able to run on the computers that almost everybody already owns and what almost everybody else buys.
Apple would probably see more profits in a year than they have ever seen in their lifetime if they would sell an x86 version of OSX.
[ September 28, 2003: Message edited by: Viper ]
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Not really. People would copy OS X, and Microsoft has a stranglehold on OEM's. So Apple would have a very hard time entering the x86 market. Not to mention convincing all the developpers to port all the 15 million applications.
Also, they would lose a lot of money on the hardware side, which make a huge part of their profits. They would need a big salespoint to replace OS X as a reason to buy their hardware. Come to think of it, the PPC platform may be a very interesting choice when all the others implement TCPA/NGSCB in the PC's.
You should know that the reason why their hardware is more expensive than PC's (not that much, though) is because it pays for many other expenses, like R&D (because they actually innovate, unlike most other OEM's), iApps, etc, not just hardware.
They are, however, trying to move away from hardware dependency, by selling iPods, iTMS, etc, as a Mac Expo presenter said. So we may see a decrease of prices in the long term.
Zombie9920:
quote:Originally posted by insomnia:
You can run Linux on every architecture.
PS: This "root-linux" doesn't exist. Any system based on the linux kernel can be configured as a multi-user system.
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No, Distros like Lindows seriously runs as root at all times for the sake of making it easier to use. The average-joe people who would ever use Linux would use a dummied down version of it like Lindows.
Taking away root restrictions robs Linux of any security advantage that Linux has to offer.
(EDIT) You are right about Apple would have a hard time making it in the x86 OS market because of the stronghold that MS holds on it right now. However, if Apple did manage to break that stronghold they would see some unbelievable profits.
Think of it like this, Billy-G earned most of his 40 Billion $$$ by selling software(mainly Windows and Office). If Billy can do it, so can the owner of Apple(I don't know who that is...I know it isn't Jobs though).
[ September 28, 2003: Message edited by: Viper ]
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