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Microsoft is a good company, really
insomnia:
quote:Originally posted by Viper:
No, Distros like Lindows seriously runs as root at all times for the sake of making it easier to use. The average-joe people who would ever use Linux would use a dummied down version of it like Lindows.
Taking away root restrictions robs Linux of any security advantage that Linux has to offer.
(EDIT) You are right about Apple would have a hard time making it in the x86 OS market because of the stronghold that MS holds on it right now. However, if Apple did manage to break that stronghold they would see some unbelievable profits.
Think of it like this, Billy-G earned most of his 40 Billion $$$ by selling software(mainly Windows and Office). If Billy can do it, so can the owner of Apple(I don't know who that is...I know it isn't Jobs though).
[ September 28, 2003: Message edited by: Viper ]
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You can configure Lindows as a multi-user system. You always can. Thats how the Linux kernel works.
;)
Laukev7:
Lindows is NOT a single user system. It is possible to configure a single-user UNIX system; in fact, you just need to type init 1 go enter single user mode. But in Lindows you just get a root account by default, and there is an option to make user accounts in the control panel.
Zombie9920:
quote:Originally posted by insomnia:
You can configure Lindows as a multi-user system. You always can. Thats how the Linux kernel works.
;)
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Ok, fair enough. However, how many people who use Windows ever makes a non-admin account for themselves? Hardly none. That wouldn't change if people were using Lindows. They would make a user account for other people to use...when they use the computer themselves they would be using their Root/Admin account.
Why? Because as an admin you aren't restricted from doing anything to your OS and files. Honestly, alot of the average-joe users don't even know about user accounts in Windows XP. That is literally the truth.
[ September 28, 2003: Message edited by: Viper ]
Calum:
quote:Originally posted by Stryker:
its fine, i'm here often enough... i'll take the time to delete any jackass posts so save the thread.
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thank you! i should have done it myself actually, but for a moment i justthought people prefferred the jackassery!
anyway it's back on track and i have this to say:
hear hear! linux users are resting on their laurels too much trusting in linux' existing security. it is fine for linux' existing users but if linux' userbase expands, less well educated people (about *ix) will become the dominant userbase. Linux developers and vendors (yes, mandrake i'm talking to you!) should not allow linux systems to become as dumbed down and ultimately as insecure and bloated as windows.
apt-get is a good start, sensible permissioning and user accounts is another start. the foundations are all good unlike the winDOS garbage, but if it doesn't step up a gear soon then either the problem between the chair and the screen will lower linux almost to the security level of windows, or else linux will simplylevel out at a share of 4 or 5% of the total home PC userbase.
emh:
Going way back to about the 9th post on this thread, I saw a statement I really need to comment on:
quote:
The more money you make, the happier you are.
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I can tell you from personal experience that this statement is not true. More money does not automatically equal happiness.
Case in point: A year and a half ago, I got a high-paying job. I was making well over what I needed to survive. In fact, during this time, I got a new computer and some music recording equipment. However, I just never had the time to enjoy the extra money I was making. Plus, I just did not enjoy the job at all. It was taking its mental toll on me. Around July, I received another job offer. I'm now a teacher assistant at a well-respected school district, and I'm so much happier. And I make significantly less money as a teacher assistant than I did at my previous job, but I enjoy being a teacher assistant much more. (in case you're wondering, I mostly help out the middle school choirs, and I play piano for rehearsals and concerts) I'm also a staff musician at a contemporary church, which I also enjoy.
Now, let's look at my sister, who has a much higher paying job than I do, yet she's always talking about how much she hates it, and she's constantly asked to work overtime, which means she never has time to enjoy the extra money she's making.
Anyway, my point is, money does not equal happiness. Even though I'm not financially rich (don't get me wrong, I'm not by any means poor, I make more than enough to live on), I feel much richer because I'm getting paid to do what I want to do with my life.
(And owning a computer that runs Linux is only a small part of that life. ;) )
[ September 28, 2003: Message edited by: emh ]
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