Speed

[TheQuirk]

I was in an argument today. Some guy was telling me that anything below 1ghz is slow. I explained to him that it isn't true, and that a 433mhz celeron, for example, is good enough, concidering the fact all he does it probably play mine sweeper. And he's a moron. Oh, and he also says Windows XP is the most STABLE OS. I don't know, go figure. So what do you think about the speed issue?+

[choasforages]

ummm, i was getting along just fine one the 233mhz system that died a few months ago, and speed depends on what you do. the fastest x86 box i have is only 400mhz, granted its a k6-3 but its still fast. i would need the 1ghz machine cuase i like to play diablo II alot and running it in wine at 400mhz is kinda slow. for what most people do, the 133mhz compaq thats sitting under my xbox would be fast enough

edit, and if all you really do is surg the web and read things, the 60mhz dell would do just great. actally it does do great

[ June 26, 2002: Message edited by: choasforages ]

[sporkme]

you cant tell the difference between 750 or so and 2ghz with the naked eye.  me/xp make it seem a lot slower too.  the only diff anyone can see is in high end apps, like new games and such.  a lot of that, tho, is ram and video speed so....

[dbl221]

Well unless you are gaming or compiling a new kernel, I have not found a big difference between my old Celeron 466 and my PIII 1Ghz.

[TheQuirk]

That's what I told him :-p speaking of which, i'll be getting an old laptop soon (32mb of ram, 3gig hd, 233mhz cpu) to put linux on. And I could bring it o school   .

[lazygamer]

Does anyone know how a 1GHZ system with a modern 3D card on Linux compares to the same system on XP? I'd be curious to know how much more efficiently Linux could utilize that hardware.

[choasforages]

i could if you sent me a 1ghz pc with xpiss and a 1ghz system so i could build a LFS/*linux from scratch*/ system. at first you would say now thats biased, you optimized the hell out of the LFS system, but the fact is, is that you could and can and maybe should. linux will always be able to beat windows in speed becuase of the kernel hackers way of thinking "its not done till no faster could it run". and with out going through all that linux does kick the shit outov xp for stuff like quake3 and quake2, i have a copy of quake2 that loads in less then 1.5 seconds. quake three loads in less then 10. on a 400mhz pc!!!, beat that with windows xp

o, and voidmain, figured anything about x11 yet

[ June 27, 2002: Message edited by: choasforages ]

[foobar]

Hey Quirk,

I think you're right, and you should consider what Timothy Macinta says about bloat :
M$'s products keep mushrooming in size ...

Linux can run on any pc, although you should consider older versions for pc's under 100 Mhz.

Just 'cuz M$ thinks its OS's need very fast computers all their geek lame followers will say the same.

[choasforages]

ummm, they don't think there computers need fast comps, they need fast computers to run that fat bloat ware, get a *modern* version of windows running on a 60mhz pentium, on a 512 meg harddrive,   and having it do useful things. hmm, netbsd can, freebsd can, openbsd probably could, debian can. ChoasNETOS will be when i find out howto compile the X-windowing system/*hint hint voidmain */ or maybe

[lazygamer]

quote:i could if you sent me a 1ghz pc with xpiss and a 1ghz system so i could build a LFS/*linux from scratch*/ system. at first you would say now thats biased, you optimized the hell out of the LFS system, but the fact is, is that you could and can and maybe should. linux will always be able to beat windows in speed becuase of the kernel hackers way of thinking "its not done till no faster could it run". and with out going through all that linux does kick the shit outov xp for stuff like quake3 and quake2, i have a copy of quake2 that loads in less then 1.5 seconds. quake three loads in less then 10. on a 400mhz pc!!!, beat that with windows xp

Goddamn that's great! I f**king love Half-life, now I can actually play some of those levels in a few mods that are a littttle too slow for me.  

[choasforages]

sorry to breek that bubble of happyness but to play half-life under linux you have to use wine to do. so the slowness would be even more slower. i was talking about linux native applications. and wine/winex is a win32 compatiblity layer, which means more over head. they never liked realesed a linux native version of the half-life client from what i understand. there was a sick aprils fool's joke about it a while ago. sad to see but half-life will always be a windiod game, its sad i know. the worst part about it is that they couldev easyly ported halflife to linux and friends. the quake/quake2 base it has is very portable. like there is a version of quake2 for sun machines last time i checked. and they ported quake i think to sgi's line of machines. however i know that valve is developing half-life II, i think that we should go email/petetion valve and let them know that we are a big potentioal market. if enough people write to them asking for a linux native version they will make one. till i ditched windows my favorite games were in order

Diablo II + LOD = it plays fairly good under winex
Diablo I  = it don't work under winex period
all the quakes = hahaha, they have linux native versions
half-life and mods = they supposedly work in wine/winex but i have never figured out how to do it

[Master of Reality]

I got Diablo I intsaller to come up in WINE. But of course i couldnt install it because it wasnt WINEX.

[sporkme]

if you send me a new computer i will see how it stacks xp vs linux  

[ravuya]

quote:Originally posted by -=f00bar=-:

Just 'cuz M$ thinks its OS's need very fast computers all their geek lame followers will say the same.

Microsoft doesn't have geek followers. They wish they could be geeks, but really they're just fucking idiots who follow a platform because it has more games on it.

[ June 27, 2002: Message edited by: Ravuya ]

[lazygamer]

OH NO!(Said in OH NO tm Lazygamer voice)

Is there any hope for Lazy's Wind0ze games on Linux? What about 0ldsk00l DOS games?