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M51DPS:

quote:Originally posted by Great_Satan:
Hello. My IP number is 172.156.216.40, and I want you all to hack into my computer and spam me. Thank you.

[ November 09, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]
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I should probaly quote this post in case Great_Stupid tries to change it.

Laukev7:
Great idea, M51DPS!

Ecsyle, are you sure AOL can do anything about this? I think the abuse address is only for email abuse, not forums.

[ November 09, 2003: Message edited by: Laukev7 ]

slave:
Jimmy James, X11 isn't technically the best graphics system out there right now, but what do *you* suggest the free software community use?  Something immature and unstable, like Y or Fresco?  Trust me, it would be a mistake.

Anyway, there are some projects that are attempting to address the shortcomings of X11, such as:

cairographics.org

Cairo is a vector graphics library with cross-device output support. Currently supported output targets include the X Window System and in-memory image buffers. PostScript and PDF file output is planned. Cairo is designed to produce identical output on all output media while taking advantage of display hardware acceleration when available (eg. through the X Render Extension).

freedesktop.org - they are currently doing a lot of work to make the various toolkits interact properly with copy/paste, also some interesting hacking to make X11 render in a more "modern" way.

have a look at Havoc Pennington's blog here to see what exactly is going on there:

http://log.ometer.com/2003-11.html#3

The thing is, X11 has a lot going for it, and the only thing we can do is keep working on it, especially since it is is the only viable open source graphics system out there.  Personally I find it much more flexible than the Windows graphics system (not tied to the kernel, multiple window managers/interfaces, faster at rendering 3d graphics in my experience, unmatched remote display capabilities)

X11 isn't what's holding desktop Linux back -- the immaturity of certain end-user applications and necessary polish in GNOME and KDE are the main problems.

hm_murdock:
if the GNU movement had made a push for something more modern years ago when they could have, it would have made a world of difference.

Display Postscript has existed since 1988, why not an OSS version of it?

NeXTStep is the OS that Linux should try to be, not generic UNIX!

Pissed_Macman:
Hey, Jimmy James's complaining has created the greatest thread of all!

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