Macromedia Flash

[xyle_one]

I am curious as to everyones feelings towards Flash animations & Websites. I have spent the last few days learning flash and i have to admit i dig this software.

[preacher]

A flash site is extremely annoying to the dialup users(they are in the majority). They have very long load times and after the first viewing are pretty much pointless. I usually skip the flash intro to view actual content. Then you must realize that you can only create flash content on macs and on windows. The real question is what kind of site you are creating. Is it a site to showcase your flash and graphic art skills? Or is it delivering actual content? For actual content I hate flash based sites.

[hm_murdock]

it's worse when they decide to do their ENTIRE SITE in flash

[zooloo]

Flash is refered to as "Skip intro" and everyone knows what we mean - they usually laugh.

Flash is cool, I wish we could find a reason to use it.

Users don't like Flash - so if it's a comercial site don't do it.

If it's your "homesite" or personal page do what you want to.

 

[voidmain]

Flash fucking sucks! It should die!

Let me refrase... There is no place for it on the opening page of a web site. It should not be forced on a person browsing a site. If used at all, it should be an option that can be turned on on a site, not a default. Anything that requires a proprietary plugin  (or a plugin period) should not be forced upon the user of the site. Flash and the tools to create flash are proprietary as far as I am concerned there is no place for it on the web.

[xyle_one]

i understand. the site i am working on is for the "Riverside Artist Lofts" and i am doing both an HTML and a flash site. yes there is going to be content, a lot of artwork, and music. it is probably going to be more for me than anyone else, considering only about 10% of the online population has broadband. there are ways to optimize it for dial-up, its just that noone does it, they are lazy. even if they do, it still is a pain in the ass for dial-up. when the first page loads, there will be a choice between loading the flash or html only site. flash will not be forced. i do wish that macromedia would release their secret behind "action scripting", and that more companies could develop their own software for it, but that doesn't seem likely.
thanks for the response, it will influence my future web projects. I have gotten used to DSL and start to think that everyone has it  

[Pantso]

Well, it certainly is annoying for me since I'm still on dialup especially when the whole website is made with flash. What I mean is that we (the remaining dialup users that is) should be given an option to view the site in plain HTML or in flash. Fortunately that is the case with many pages but not all.