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The end of overtime 3/2 payment

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Faust:
Yeah giving people an adequate reward for larger amounts of work is a pretty basic right, not to mention one of the foundations of the capitalist system.

Of course like Stryker said you vote for who you get.  Don't like the Bush administrations policies?  Then vote them out at the polls.  Like them?  Then vote them back in, it's that simple (I'll ignore claims of vote rigging for this argument...)  In the end you get what you vote for, and if your apathy means you just make an "easy decision" at the polls then tough shit, you get what you deserve.

If you wan't to bitch about this and you are of voting age then I hope to God you actually vote.  As Triple J (Australian radio station) puts it "either vote or shut up for the next four years."  If you're not of voting age then try raising your beliefs in school.  At least make sure people know that there are alternative positions to be held and why you hold them.  (It would achieve a lot more than bitching on forums.)

Stryker:
nobody that is put into office i would agree with 100% on every view they have. I would (if I was old enough) vote for bush because i agree with most of his ideas. Not this though. A decision of this magnitude should not just be decided by a small group of people, it should be taken for the citizens to decide. Especially considering it doesn't really affect the people that are making the decision.

suselinux:

quote:Originally posted by Stryker:
nobody that is put into office i would agree with 100% on every view they have. I would (if I was old enough) vote for bush because i agree with most of his ideas. Not this though. A decision of this magnitude should not just be decided by a small group of people, it should be taken for the citizens to decide. Especially considering it doesn't really affect the people that are making the decision.
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Isn't it representative governmment, important or not, the people you voted for are the people who voted to decide these things, like faust said

Faust:

quote:I would (if I was old enough) vote for bush because i agree with most of his ideas.
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WHOA!  You're not old enough to vote?  I had views of you as some 40 year old battle weary uber developer who had "seen it all."   :D

Yeah being in office doesn't give you a "mandate."  Important decisions should still be subject to public approval, because no president is the ruler of a country - the people are the ones who should be bossing around the president not the other way around.  Calling a vote even once a month though is guaranteed to piss off the voters (Democratic rights?  God dammit I'll miss the final!), but referendums on all important issues would be cool.

hm_murdock:
I've been trying for years to get people my age to vote. The 18-to-25s are so damned lazy that leaving the house to vote is an alien thought.

Then there's the argument "my vote doesn't count"... something that the Florida debauchery only served to heighten, because they kept talking about how even if Bush lost the popular vote, the electorate could still put him in.

We have a really backwards voting system. The electoral college should have been abolished years ago. Standing on tradition can often times get in the way of progress... this is one of those times.

But whether or not there's an electoral college, their decision is still based on their state's popular vote. So guys, get out there and vote. Vote against the Rediculans so we can get this destructive regime out of the country.

But hell, even if you vote for the bad guys, just farking vote

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