Anti-Mac Sentiment...

[hm_murdock]

Not sure if  this is the correct forum... but since it's not a discussion of hardware or OS, I figured this was the place.

Now, down to bidness. How many fellow Macheads have ever been personally insulted because of your choice of platforms? I mean, when someone goes beyond trashing Apple or our beloved Macs, and actually tears you down personally for being a Mac user.

And, on a similar vein. How many Linux guys have been insulted for not being a drone?

And the ultimate question... why can't people leave us alone to make our own choices?

[Calum]

usually when people insult me for not using microsoft's stuff it is because i have droned on for ages about it to start with so it's really all my own fault!  

[Pantso]

I can't say that I've ever been insulted by anyone because I chose to use non-Windows OSes. On the contrary when I was using Linux on my previous laptops everyone was really amazed by what I've told them and I'm actually very proud for having converted a few friends of mine to using Linux. Well they actually dual boot but let's not be ungrateful   .

Wait. I remember once a teacher of mine in an introductory class in Computers telling me that if I  was an IT and insisted on using Linux, I would stay unemployed   :eek: . Talk about ignorance  

[preacher]

Ive never been laughed at because I use linux, in fact people assume that I must be extremely intelligent since I know how to work the command line.....lol

[psyjax]

As a Mac user I have gotten shit from PC heads. I remember having this inane argument with my Aunt trying to explain to her why multi-media support on a Mac was supperior.

All she kept rattling off was "I've got MMX" like she had an Intel Inside sticker stuck to her forhead.

Many times I have gotten lip from l33t gamer d00dz who think the meaning of life is fragging people in half-life. Dood! Maks have no gamzzzz!!!!

Funny thing was, they started a LAN party and ended up using an OSX G4 as a server cuz they coulden't get the NT machine to work LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

[ October 09, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]

[ntiozymandias]

I've had Windows users attack me that way.

I've also had Linux users do this, despite the fact that I was much more proficient at wielding the Mac OS than they were at understanding Linux.

Hmmm........

[Kat]

I find that most people who rag on Linux and Mac are the same people who need help dragging the taskbar back to the bottom of the screen.

[lazygamer]

I just have one problem with macs. Mac has a history of a shitty operatating system right? Just because there modern operating system works great now, why should they be forgiven?

Alright I woulden't know from first hand experience, well I have used macs before. Never had a problem with them, in fact I was weened on the apple IIe playing those ghey educational games from MECC. Then came the ub3r l33t(compared to those IIe's) macintoshes.

[preacher]

When I first tried using linux, I was one of those assholes who was just using it because they wanted to be "1337". I wanted to be a hax0r and after a week I got bored with it and quit. Several years later after I graduated from college with a major in Computer Information Systems, I got kind of big into web design and at this point I became frustrated with hosting services and decided that I needed my own webserver. To be truthful I looked into Microsoft first, but quickly realized that my budget was nowhere near big enough to run a MS server. I also heard that they were very insecure. So I looked into linux again and installed a dual boot system to get started. Even though I had been dabbling in the OS a little bit before, I found I knew next to nothing about it. So I took a Linux/Apache webserver class at the local community college. I learned a lot, and I eliminated the windows partition to begin using linux full time. While taking the class I also took a MCP class(Windows 2000 Server Security) and in that class I met a lot of criticism about my preference for linux. The one thing I learned about Windows 2000 as compared to linux is that once you get deep into Active Directory and security, it is just as complicated if not more so than linux. I was told constantly that linux was too difficult to admin to be practical, yet in my opinion it is no more difficult than Windows. Dont let the fact that you modify text files in linux lead you to believe that it is difficult or obsolete. I had a classmate who thought the linux gui looked worse than windows 3.1, but I soon realized he had seen the old kde and thought it pretty weak. After showing him kde 2.2.x, he admitted it looked pretty good. The one issue I get battered with most is hardware support.Windows users love plug and play, and I like it too, unfortunately since very little hardware is made to work with linux, this might always be a problem. After defending linux on every issue, they declare that Im just being stupid since I wont admit that windows was superior. All I can say is that if you believe people who want to use something different are stupid, I must be head moron.


A good comparison would be the manual transmission(linux), versus the automatic transmission(windows). The manual transmission is more difficult to drive, it takes longer to learn, and requires more work to be good at driving it, but it gets better gas mileage, accelerates faster, and breaks down far less than the automatic transmission.

[ October 09, 2002: Message edited by: ThePreacher ]

[psyjax]

quote:Originally posted by lazygamer:
I just have one problem with macs. Mac has a history of a shitty operatating system right? Just because there modern operating system works great now, why should they be forgiven?

Huh?

I disagree whole-heartedly! Their OS kicks the shit out of windows anyday!

Classic (OS9 or earlyer) was faster, snappier, and a shit load more stable and user friendly than Windoze.

Granted, many folks complaine about Mac's crashing too much, and I'd be lieing if I sayd crashing on Mac's was not a pain in the Ass, but in my years using Classic I have managed to keep my computer running as stable (if not more) as a WinTel box.

Any el337 Mac user worth his salt can trim down an Extension parade, and configure INITs and Memory alocations. And if you are good at it, you can run a very stable system. Especialy back in the glory days of OS 7       (Hey, it's easyer than digging in the Registry   )

In this Modern age of OS's OSX is the ONLY OS that truely dosn't crash. IMHO Apple is the God of OS's hands down, why do you think M$ is allways copying them?

[ October 09, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]

[psyjax]

Speaking of Mac OS7, I got all nostalgic and crap and thought Id drop this link:

http://toastytech.com/guis/mac755.html

It's hard to belive that Windoze today isn't nearly as well designed as OS7 was then!

And check out this:

http://toastytech.com/guis/macos81.html

Granted, I still think 7.5 was the Classic OS high-point, but OS8 has some ultra-excellent fetures. Please tell me M$ has a better designed OS? jeezz. go home.

Sorry... That sort of talk raises the hair on the back of my neck and I go into rant mode  

[hm_murdock]

Amen, psyjax!

the classic OS had years of development behind it. I've seen Macs running any version of it from 7.0 on be rock solid, running for weeks with no problems.

However, as a comp. lab asst. I also see the OS get assraped by everybody d/ling every IM, filesharing, and email client on the farking planet and clogging up the Extensions folder. At the end of every day, I just set all of their Extension Managers back to a configuration based on 9.2 on my own iMac.

Certainly nothing flaky about it! Now badly written apps... that's another topic...

[poloktim]

Ah, just last night I told a friend I was planning on putting Linux on my computer. He riddiculed me saying Windows was much more secure.

This is where the Riddler's Really Hidden files came into it. I took him to his computer and showed him his history that he "deleted" often was very much still there. I then reminded him Linux, unlike Windows does what it is told.

His dad then walked in "Linux is old!" he said strongly, "WinXP Pro is the best." My friend and I both showed him the secretly hidden History contents and then he was upset. I then explained to both of them I was unsure about using MacOS or Linux, they both laughed at MacOS, I tapped the screen of their monitors and they shut up.

My mate is building his own computer same as me (he'll do it quickly because he has money, I don't    ) and he's put me incharge of finding a suitable OS. I told him Dual Boot for a while, as that's what I'm doing (to get a feel for it, if he doesn't like it he can use Windows until a new one is installed, software etc. etc. etc.) until he is confident enough with it to wipe Windows.

Our only problem, which distro of Linux to choose? And how to get them?

[voidmain]

If you have high speed connection see my tag line. If not you can order the CDs directly from the distro vendor or from Linux CD sites for very little. If you download them you can try a few and see which you like most. RedHat, SuSe, Mandrake are all pretty good for the beginner and the experienced.

[Calum]

quote:Originally posted by Kat:
I find that most people who rag on Linux and Mac are the same people who need help dragging the taskbar back to the bottom of the screen.

! forty points! (yes i saw that on the windows BS as well!)...

edit - psyjax, i just noticed that those macos7 and 8 screenshots are from an ix86 computer running a motorola emulator!

[ October 10, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]