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psyjax

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« Reply #15 on: 10 October 2002, 21:45 »
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Originally posted by Calum:
edit - psyjax, i just noticed that those macos7 and 8 screenshots are from an ix86 computer running a motorola emulator!


Yea, there is an old Mac emulator called Basilisk. I think it can run MacOS up to 8.5, but it's not very fast from my understanding. Still it's pretty neat.

The guy who runs the site is on a PC, but he dosn't seem to like Windoze or IE very much  :D

He also has a huge gallery of other GUI's, including an x86 version of Rhapsody!! Proving that Apple is indeed keeping a development x86 version of OSX in their back rooms. When they will spring it on the world? Time will tell.
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« Reply #16 on: 10 October 2002, 23:47 »
Oh dude, i been there and i know what you mean. Basicaly the people who do that are plain old 24/7 porn surfers computer users or 15 year old pricks that dont know any better.
 
 If someone insults me about trivial things like OS then he realy needs a life and I just smile with sarcasm. Silence speaks louder than words many times.
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« Reply #17 on: 11 October 2002, 01:31 »
What about insulting a wind0ze user over his choice of OS?  :D

24/7 porn surfers? The problem with porn surfing is that you want more worse and worse content and eventually you start to become mildly insane.  ;)
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« Reply #18 on: 11 October 2002, 08:32 »
psyjax, Basilisk runs up to 8.1. 8.5 and up require a Power Macintosh.

Basilisk is a good emu, though. it supports full color, runs terribly fast, and is very compatible with Mac 68K software.

If you wanna fiddle around with a moderately modern Mac OS when on a PC, check it out.
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« Reply #19 on: 11 October 2002, 21:26 »
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Originally posted by lazygamer:
What about insulting a wind0ze user over his choice of OS?   :D  

24/7 porn surfers? The problem with porn surfing is that you want more worse and worse content and eventually you start to become mildly insane.   ;)  



 well ok. Those are always fun to give them hell.
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« Reply #20 on: 11 October 2002, 11:50 »
i bash macs all the time because they never seem to work properly at school. my school has lots of wintels and maybe 30 macs or so... the macs are fast with excellent graphics BUT half the students' login IDs and passwords don't even work, it has HUGE problems trying to pass through the school's proxy and it always gets errors when starting up where it has the picture of a bomb and the only button you can select is 'restart'
the wintel computers at school don't have those problems, all names and passwords work, they never actually crash (no intensive work like servers or games) and they actually have 2 buttons where you can just right click and select the function you want. despite that thing of "oh well hold the command button and click the mouse on a mac" that doesn't work at all, i've tried that LOTS of times and it just doesn't work on those... the computers are Imacs all of them are 600mhz connected through WIRES, not wireless (just so you don't claim it might be a problem with interferance)

i've never been badmouthed for using Linux, most people dont even know what that is.

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« Reply #21 on: 11 October 2002, 14:51 »
well that mac problem sounds like bad network administration, but then maybe those macs are hard to administrate?

back to the aside, do any of those 68k emulators run in linux? i would like to try and run a MacOS under linux some time...
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« Reply #22 on: 11 October 2002, 16:47 »
The Official Basilisk II Home Page

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« Reply #23 on: 11 October 2002, 17:46 »
and just to answer my own question, http://www.maconlinux.org/ which i saw somebody post in the screenshots thread.

edit - those maconlinux guys seem to only offer versions written for mac versions of linux!! what's the point? you could just dual boot!! i will email them......

[edit - just noticed goseberry's reply, sorry, goose, i basically just spoke shite by saying exactly what you said...  :D  ]

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« Reply #24 on: 11 October 2002, 18:13 »
But that only works on Linux/ppc. If you have an x86, use Basilisk.

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« Reply #25 on: 12 October 2002, 00:29 »
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Originally posted by Chooco:
i bash macs all the time because they never seem to work properly at school. my school has lots of wintels and maybe 30 macs or so... the macs are fast with excellent graphics BUT half the students' login IDs and passwords don't even work, it has HUGE problems trying to pass through the school's proxy and it always gets errors when starting up where it has the picture of a bomb and the only button you can select is 'restart'
the wintel computers at school don't have those problems, all names and passwords work, they never actually crash (no intensive work like servers or games) and they actually have 2 buttons where you can just right click and select the function you want. despite that thing of "oh well hold the command button and click the mouse on a mac" that doesn't work at all, i've tried that LOTS of times and it just doesn't work on those... the computers are Imacs all of them are 600mhz connected through WIRES, not wireless (just so you don't claim it might be a problem with interferance)

i've never been badmouthed for using Linux, most people dont even know what that is.




Yep, unfortunetly I think Schools are the number 1 reason people get bad impressions of Mac's. Usually they are poorly maintained, and no one takes care of them.

There is allways two aproaches admin's take to the Mac's and they both suck. 1) let the user do whatever the fuck he wants. As a result you get shitloads of INITs and Extensions piled up etc. and the whole thing goes to shit cuz no one is makeing sure the system is properly configured all the time. 2) Lock the sucker up beyond belife. In this situation so many user restrictions are placed on the machine that no one can do anything, no matter how minor.

I used to maintain a Comp. Lab of both NTboxes and iMac's. I was known as "the Mac guy", I'm proud to say that I had all of those iMac's up and running smoothly 100% of the time cuz I made the effort of administrating them properly. Kept the users in their own folders, and at the end of the day gave a quick look at the Extension Manager to put it back it's base set.

Coulden't tell you about the Proxy server issues, prolly on NT      

But seriously, all of these issues are a moot point now adays. You use OSX yet?

EDIT: as for two button mice, just bring your own to the lab. If it's USB, it will work. I personaly still don't see what the big fuss is. I have a big four-button track ball, and the regular old Optical Apple mouse, I switch between them every once in a while. Never actually cared about having more or less buttons, just a diffrent way of working is all.

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« Reply #26 on: 12 October 2002, 00:42 »
yeah, dick headed admins can fuck the mac experaince up big time. but my experiances with a g4 400mhz was awsome
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« Reply #27 on: 12 October 2002, 02:17 »
Chooco...

Try Control+click. Cmd+click does absolutely nothing, and it never will.

And why is it that you *need* multiple buttons? Windows wasn't able to use but one button until Windows 95... and people still bitched.

MS's implementation of multiple buttons is about as tactful as bringing Charles Manson to a family event. Sometimes dragging an object moves it... sometimes it copies it... sometimes right dragging will reverse the default action, but sometimes it won't... and other times it will just put a menu up without letting you drag.

As for proxy problems, they did the same shit at my HS. But we had it worse off. We were runnign a mixed bag of ancient ass 030 Performas, a couple of G3 all-in-ones, two G4 towers, and a number of SEs... yes... I graduated in 2000 and we had SEs.

There was one guy in the whole district who knew anything about Apples, and they put him in charge of moving the district to Win2K.

He quit. Now he works for the Univ. of Arkansas.

psy... I've got the same lowly job. but it is fun to debunk windoze lusers' arguments. We're running Jag and it's hilarious to show them how it does things better than expee!
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