Be polite!

[cloudstrife]

OK, i love the forums but i have one HUGE gripe.  now before i start let me say that i HATE M$ and i use mainly freebsd.  HOWEVER....
When someone comes here to ask a question about which windows version sucks less, or how to get rid of WMP, please DO NOT say something like "windows sucks, use linux" or "download the solution here: redhat.com".  People - it gets SO ANNOYING when someone trys to get help with the crappy os that is windows and all they get is a "fuck you, windows blows".  That is VERY immature, i wish it would stop.

[Bazoukas]

Well this web site was made as an effort to root out Windows.  Many people come here and they find themselves switching to Linux out of the blue (truely yours included).
  There are many Windows support forumswhere you can direct your questions.
  We choose not to support Windows by not giving any tech help.
 On the other hand if you post a question about Linux, you will get many replies and i might add helpfull replies.


   And oh yeah, get a real OS. Switch to Linux  

[Refalm]

I agree with cloudstrife...

Next time someone asks something about Windows, ignore him/her if your thinking to place a "Windows sucks, use Linux" reply.

Let the people reply who will help this poor soul, and say something like: OK, now you have Windows Messenger off your computer, but when you "eXPerience" Windows XP more, you'll find more inconviniences. You can choose to switch to another operating system now for free! You can even use Linux, BSD and Windows on the same computer via dual boot.

[voidmain]

We've been over this 1000 times now and I'm going to say it another time. This IS NOT A FUCKING WINDOWS HELP SITE. It's perfectly apporpriate to say "Windows sucks, use something else". That's what this site is all about. Lately I've been at least giving them a warning that they will get flamed looking for Windows help here and they should go to a site like www.windowsbbs.com if they want help with Windows.

Now, bazoukas, I see you posted a nice RedHat 8 screen shot with your *.ppt file on it. Where did you post the image? Can you put your *.ppt file in the same place you put that image so we can get it? Was OpenOffice included with RH8 able to open it ok? I've found it does a good job opening PowerPoint files.

[Bazoukas]

oh shit man I didnt think of that.


 I posted it on my attbi web site.

 Hold on am gonna give it a try.

[voidmain]

quote:Originally posted by bazoukas:
oh shit man I didnt think of that.


 I posted it on my attbi web site.

 Hold on am gonna give it a try.

And if they only allow certain file types just zip it up and rename it to "bazoukas.jpg" and upload it.    We can straighten it out after we download it.

[rtgwbmsr]

quote:Originally posted by Refalm:
I agree with cloudstrife...

Next time someone asks something about Windows, ignore him/her if your thinking to place a "Windows sucks, use Linux" reply.

Let the people reply who will help this poor soul, and say something like: OK, now you have Windows Messenger off your computer, but when you "eXPerience" Windows XP more, you'll find more inconviniences. You can choose to switch to another operating system now for free! You can even use Linux, BSD and Windows on the same computer via dual boot.

I agree with Refalm and Cloudstrife, and I do and do try to help people politely. We don't want to give a bad first impression...It scares them off

[Pantso]

I too try to treat people who come here as politely as possible even M$ Windows users, except for those who are being provocative and offensive. I also believe that when a Windows user comes here he should be presented with the options, like Refalm wrote, and not redirected to windows forums or bluntly insulted.

"Throwing" people out of the forums for no reason, creates a bad impression not only for this site but for people who use the alternatives in general.

[ October 04, 2002: Message edited by: Panos ]

[ October 04, 2002: Message edited by: Panos ]

[voidmain]

There have been at least 3 to 5 threads with nearly identical messages on this subject. Are we going to start a 6th? The people who want to help are going to help, the people who want to say "fuck off" are going to say "fuck off". There's nothing anyone can do about it. I am personally toward the "fuck off" side but in a nice way.    Anyone who comes to a site called "Fuck Microsoft" asking for help with "Microsoft" have a problem with their elevator not reaching the top floor.

As soon as we start fixing M$ problems for people this place will become http://www.windowsbbs.com/ and if that is what you want this to turn in to then I suggest you satisfy your urge by helping the windoids over there... Keep the shit out of here. I refer them nicely to that site and I also mention that there is a better way. What's not nice about that? I don't believe anyone could ask for any more than that.

You all know how I feel about it anyway. And I know how you all feel about it, which makes this thread even more pointless. Just my 37 cents.

[pkd_lives]

Anyone who comes here and posts pro M$ is liable and deserving of flaming. My view is simple enough. If they want help configuring an M$ application then in words of one syllable - FUCK OFF.

HOWEVER, I do believe our assitance should be given (according to ones own desire) to non-M$ applications, even if they run under Windows. As for flaming. There are people who post here who deserve the proverbial kick up the arse. And I would be a miserable shit indeed if I didn't get a good laugh from the windoid flaming, under no account should this stop.

I am actually opposed to giving out the windows BS thread, that is helping them be stupid, it's bad for them, and we need to protect these poor and needy people, who through no fault of their own, have fallen throught he cracks in this computer age of ours. You would not provide alcohol to the alcoholic, why provide assignine stupidity to the misguided.

[voidmain]

quote:Originally posted by pkd:
I am actually opposed to giving out the windows BS thread, that is helping them be stupid, it's bad for them, and we need to protect these poor and needy people, who through no fault of their own, have fallen throught he cracks in this computer age of ours. You would not provide alcohol to the alcoholic, why provide assignine stupidity to the misguided.

That's why when I say I'm not going to help them with Windows issues and send them over to the black hole, I also say if they want to try something else they will surely get higher quality help here.

My thinking being, as flawed as it may be, is that they will get so frustrated with the lusers at windowsbbs that they will come back and get real help, but with a better product.

[Fett101]

I much agree with cloud. Every "just format C:" or "Use Linux" answer means another windows user who think Linux is for some geeky, living in thier parents basement, snob.

[TheQuirk]

quote:Originally posted by fett101:
I much agree with cloud. Every "just format C:" or "Use Linux" answer means another windows user who think Linux is for some geeky, living in thier parents basement, snob,

elitist, star-trek worshiping, pocket-protector wearing losers.    Sorry, I just had to add a few more.

[lazygamer]

Hey I totally support you Cloud, this is what I've been fruitlesly preaching. Although I get quite a laugh at the "Windows sucks use Linux!" responses!

Im glad to know that me and cloud aren't the only ones who feel this way.  

I highly doubt that people will come here, ask for help, and never come back. If your not instantly inclined to challenge the validity of the KMFMS article when you arrive here, there is hope for you yet.

[Calum]

quote:cloudstrife:
 OK, i love the forums but i have one HUGE gripe. now before i start let me say that i HATE M$ and i use mainly freebsd. HOWEVER....
When someone comes here to ask a question about which windows version sucks less, or how to get rid of WMP, please DO NOT say something like "windows sucks, use linux" or "download the solution here: redhat.com". People - it gets SO ANNOYING when someone trys to get help with the crappy os that is windows and all they get is a "fuck you, windows blows". That is VERY immature, i wish it would stop.

No. it is not immature. Windows users can come here and bullshit all they want can they? and as soon as somebody who is not a dumbass windoid wants to say something they are suddenly immature? bullshit. How dare you tell me what to say. These forums are very deeply based in free speech and anybody who comes here must accept that.

quote:Refalm:
I agree with cloudstrife...

Next time someone asks something about Windows, ignore him/her if your thinking to place a "Windows sucks, use Linux" reply.

Let the people reply who will help this poor soul, and say something like: OK, now you have Windows Messenger off your computer, but when you "eXPerience" Windows XP more, you'll find more inconviniences. You can choose to switch to another operating system now for free! You can even use Linux, BSD and Windows on the same computer via dual boot.

your comments are confusing. you tell us first NOT to say 'windows sucks, use linux' but then you say EXACTLY that in a slightly more roundabout way! quite frankly i feel that my responses to people will fit their initial posts. If they barge in spewing shit, i will insult them in response. If they appear sensible but clueless, i will be polite. If they seem stubborn for no reason, i will make it clear that i am unwilling to help them until they help themselves, and if they are abusive, they can expect abuse in response.

this forum will not, as long as i have anything to do with it, become a mollycoddling haven for idiotic windows losers. There are thousands upon thousands of dives where they can huddle together and try to convince each other that their software is the best (which they need to be reassured of now that they have paid so much for it), and there are precious few forums where free speech is allowed, much less respected.

Thank you and goodnight.