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cahult:
We are spoonfed with bad american TV series and movies showing us special attack forces going in and taking out specific targets. How come they (US and ENGLAND(!) not UK) aren

Stryker:
There are notices that are sent out to warn the citizens (which would also seem to warn the actual targets, eh?). Civilians may get hurt, i'm not denying that. But they know full well that the city is being bombed, they don't have to just stand there while bombs hit the building next door. I know it's not easy on them, but after this is done it should be a hell of a lot better for them than it was when saddam was around.

Well, that's half of my stuborn opinion... I got to go to school though. later.

Calum:
so if your entire country gets invaded and hostile troops with automatic weapons sweep from one side to the other while their air force continually bombs the cities day and night, then this is acceptable so long as they drop leaflets beforehand telling you they're going to do it is it? i can see that going down well turned the other way round. so you're saying that if whoever was responsible for those planes/buildings attacks had dropped a lot of leaflets on the 10th of september 2001, saying that they were going to do that, then it would have been fine and none of the americans would have complained? somehow i don't see it.

these leaflets are simply a way for the americans to salve their own consciences without having to face the harsh cruelness of their own actions.

edit: however i kind of agree with some of the sentiment behind the US' actions, even though i disagree with their actions and the patronising way they have gone about this whole affair.

[ March 25, 2003: Message edited by: Calum: crusader for justice & peace ]

KernelPanic:

quote:Originally posted by Panos:
If you Americans haven't seen the Iraqis killed so far, then I should assume that your information is being filtered by the US government (surprise, surprise!).

Thankfully I have satellite access to Al Jaseera and have seen with my own eyes dismembered kids, women and elder men. I've also seen the American POWs, including two Apache USAF pilots and a shot-down Apache helicopter!!!

Talk about a "walk" to Baghdad! LOL! And you haven't seen the worst yet! Wait till the so-called coallition troops reach Baghdad, where all of Saddam's forces are, including suicide bombers!    :eek:  
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Indeed, its a 'so-called coalition'. The other day some senior english military guy was talking about Kk-US forces and then corrected himself and said 'i mean coalition'. This little stumble is bang on the nose.
Only the US UK and Aussies are fighting in this war, and spain has sent wait for it....
a hospital ship.
What a coalition, the rest of the 30ish nations will have been convinced by what American 'aid' they have been offered.

I am not sure what judgement to make of the whole situation though, I guess we will have to see what post-war iraq is like and whether it was worth the civilian and infrastructural losses.

I do wish england wasnt taking part for a start, the issue of whether war is justifiable/legal has been shady and frankly we can't afford it. Blair makes no sense, you dont reduce nation debt by starting a damn war! It hasnt even made the economy pick up over here.

Anyway, rambling...

TheQuirk:
I'm not going to mention me opinion here, but I'm going to point out that nothing is being filtered.

 
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Iraq has reported 78 civilian deaths since Monday as a result of bombing raids. Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saaef al Sahaf 16 people were killed late Monday evening and early Tuesday morning in the coalition bombing of Baghdad. CNN cannot independently verify Iraq's figures.

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http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/war.tracker/index.html

Right there under the coalition casulaties.

Panos: Can you even understand what they say on that station (just wondering--my friend's dad is from Iraq and watches it--and yes, he does support the war in Iraq, as does his Iraqi famiy which still lives there).

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